mandie | ah, why can't they email them to me :(
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Sector | Maybe we should invite Steve Ballmer to one of our speakups,
Bill Gates II.
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Sector | I'd like to see Mr. Soyring in one of thses chat sessions ...
moderated of
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Sector | course.
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mandie | now I know why they didn't bother :)
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Sector | Don't ask me, I just live here
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mandie | lol
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Sector | Well, the first one at least could be usuable...
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mandie | ah, Adrian...yes
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mandie | You might have more pull with him than I do :)
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* | Sector gives mandie a ten mouse power engine to pull with
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mandie | hehe
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Sector | Ok, now where's that vice president to call this meeting to
orderù
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Sector | (besides being fashionably late as usuall)
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* | WarpHoss thinks Swanee may attempt a coup.
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Sector | Yeah, maybe he's busy planning that
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mandie | he's probably trying to find his bow tie...can't wear a tux
without a bow tie you know :)
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mandie | lol
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WarpHoss | lol
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WarpHoss | could be lookin for guido... or someone to help him with the
coup attempt.
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mandie | with Wayne....ANYTHING is possible :)
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* | WarpHoss abstains from agreement.
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Sector | Hi MADvirc
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mandie | hiya Mark
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MADvirc | Hello all
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MADvirc | Are we bothering with a meeting tonight?
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Sector | We've got one scheduled...
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Sector | Just not too many participants
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mandie | I think we should discuss WarpTech 2000
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WarpHoss | Amongst a few other things.
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MADvirc | OK then someone list an agenda
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mandie | oh yes...*those* too :)
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mandie | you are MAD! :)
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mandie | I didn't see any agenda posted....did I miss something?
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WarpHoss | WPTCH2000 , speakup ideas, WD and anything else that comes
up.
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WarpHoss | In the tradition of Dan and Swannee informal is best.
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MADvirc | Neither did I, but I haven't felt well all weekend, and I'd
like this to go smoother then meetings have been of late
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WarpHoss | I would too MADvirc.
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WarpHoss | Sorry to hear you been feelin bad.
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MADvirc | No big deal, just tthattime of year
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* | Sector thinks MAD needs a nurse
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* | WarpHoss thinks since Swanee is alone he'll be along shortly...
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mandie | 8:15 cutoff and then you start the mtg, plz :)
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WarpHoss | So Mandie... what about WarpTech2000 and the POSSI gang?
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WarpHoss | ^^^^^^ me just did start the meeting.
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Sector | Ok, we've got another 3 hours and 5 minutes then mandie...
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mandie | ok, from the WarpTech planning list..I'm not sure if it's
posted yet or not
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mandie | Exhibitor fees will be $350 until 2-29-99
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mandie | then $450 thereafter
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Rat-Salad | brb
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WarpHoss | Steep.
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mandie | each booth registered includes 3 lunches for one person
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mandie | additional lunches will be available for $25/ea
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mandie | I think so too...I wonder if it is worth our while
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WarpHoss | and a massueuse 2 of those 3 days?
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mandie | there should be :)
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Sector | Oh, WarpHoss want's to fund it out of his own pocket
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MADvirc | $25 for lunch?
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WarpHoss | !Not!
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MADvirc | or is that for 3 lunches?
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mandie | maybe the massage is during lunch?
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mandie | >Additional lunches will be available for our cost of $25
each.
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WarpHoss | hey now that could work! :)
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mandie | per W2K email list
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mandie | we need to do some financial analysis
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mandie | we have and will continue to support Warpstock..
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mandie | now there is WarpTech
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mandie | I don't know if there will be another WarpExpo West or not
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mandie | but that would be 3 annual events
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mandie | I don't think our budget can handle that
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Sector | Hey, WarpExpo West didn't cut into the budget...
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MADvirc | Were we ever officially invited to WT?
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mandie | no no...I'm not saying it did
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Sector | Nothing currently planned that I know of for another one
though
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mandie | BUT, we should be contributing to help SCOUG also
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mandie | that came completely out of the SCOUG budget
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mandie | on the other hand
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mandie | if they had the financial resources to pull it off...then we
shouldn't feel that we need to contribute
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MADvirc | Well if we could just get more people to join we could do a
lot more for the OS/2 community.
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Sector | That would be good
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* | WarpHoss thinks that our committment right now is to the members and our own projects. We should ask ourselves a few questions... before we decide.
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Sector | WarpStock helps with membership, WarpExpo West resulted in
zero new members, don't know about WarpTech
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mandie | WarpHoss: agreed....if WarpDoctor is going to start costing
us...then we need to get some figures
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WarpHoss | 1. What will WPTK2000 do for our existing members.
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mandie | zippo
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mandie | but then again...what did WS99 do for our members?
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WarpHoss | 2. Will WPTK2000 do to increase our membership?
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WarpHoss | what will oops.
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MADvirc | Did you mess your pants?
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mandie | I highly doubt we would see many new members from WT2000
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WarpHoss | 3. Will WPT2000 benefit or help us towards our goal of
educating the OS/2 Commununity?
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MADvirc | Well it should help there
although.....WT2000 is slated to be a technical
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mandie | conference...and we might get alot of play out of presenting
WarpDoctor
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MADvirc | Agreed on that
I agree, WT2000 will have a lot of POSSI members I would
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Sector | imagine, but how many would look to joining VOICE as wellù
WEW was SCOUG, and we didn't pick up any new members there...
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MADvirc | To present though do we need a booth?
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mandie | we wouldn't be educating the os2 community....it would be
WT2000...so it has nothing to do with our goal
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mandie | I wouldn't think so
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WarpHoss | WT2000 is OS/2 focused is it not?
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mandie | yes it is
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mandie | but WE are not putting it on...
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mandie | 3. Will WPT2000 benefit or help us towards our goal of
educating the
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mandie | OS/2 Commununity?
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WarpHoss | if we participate it's possible it could. //Iphrased that
question wrong.
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mandie | it almost sounds like we're under the umbrella...and that's
not the case
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mandie | do we have volunteers that are willing to man the booth for 3
days?
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WarpHoss | I'd volunteer but travel of that disatnace is out of the
question on those dates.
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MADvirc | I won't be there. Anyone else planning to be there?
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mandie | I won't be there
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Sector | Not me
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MADvirc | Do we have any members local to Phoenix?
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mandie | yep, POSSI's president :)
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WarpHoss | Well So far I haven't seen anything to justify the
expenditure.
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mandie | but, I don't think we could tie him up for 3 days :)
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Sector | Some SCOUG members are planning on attending, including Dave
Watson who is also a VOICE member
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MADvirc | Well we could ask our members
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WarpHoss | and if WD progresses to the point we need to announce it then
what's another 100 or so?
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MADvirc | I certainly wouldn't spend $350-450 without knowing someone
will be there
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WarpHoss | I vote to NO to booth at WT2000.
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mandie | presentation shouldn't cost us
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mandie | nay here also
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MADvirc | Lynn gonna be there?
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Sector | Hmmm, not sure
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Sector | Guess we could ask him when he gets back from the theatre
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Rat-Salad | back
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Sector | wb Rat-Salad
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MADvirc | I'd say no to wt2000 at this point. Maybe next year if we
have the funds.
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Sector | Hi Chrissy
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Chrissy | hey
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MADvirc | Has any1 heard from Wayne or the Peters?
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Sector | No on the booth, maybe a presentation though
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WarpHoss | What do you think about WT2000 mandie?
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mandie | I say nay
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mandie | I don't think that VOICE will benefit from it
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MADvirc | If Lynn is going he would handle the presentation I would
think.
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Sector | Wayne was in here last night...
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WarpHoss | and not completely can the presentation idea if the need
arises?
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mandie | unless...WarpDoctor needs some promoting and we have someone
available that knows what they are talking about to do so
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WarpHoss | ok agenda item one handled.
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MADvirc | item 2?
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WarpHoss | Suggestions for Speakups.
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mandie | I haven't heard from any members as yet
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* | WarpHoss wanted to make sure no one disagreed with item one bein handled.
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mandie | can we go back to 1
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mandie | just for a second
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WarpHoss | sure.
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WarpHoss | Robert left with his rules....
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mandie | I think we should present the idea to the members
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WarpHoss | ahh an ammendment.
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mandie | we should also tell them...that it will be based on
volunteers being available to man the booth
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MADvirc | Funny, I think someone else said that
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WarpHoss | ok. Not a bad idea.
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MADvirc | :-)
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mandie | Mad: ah, I must have missed it
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mandie | if they do vote to get a booth...and if we have the
volunteers to man it
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WarpHoss | We are gonna base our decision to get a booth on availability
of personnell to manage it?
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madodel | Well we could ask our members
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WarpHoss | hmmm....
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mandie | yep, I missed it :)
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WarpHoss | I did also.
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WarpHoss | :(
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mandie | well, atleast it's good to know that we're still on the same
wave length :)
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MADvirc | OK, WH want to draft a memo to the members?
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WarpHoss | I'll see what I can whip up.
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Sector | Creamù
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WarpHoss | Merengue.
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WarpHoss
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WarpHoss | Anyone have any other ideas for WT2000?
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* | WarpHoss going once....
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* | WarpHoss ..... going twice ......
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MADvirc | gone
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WarpHoss | kewl.
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WarpHoss | ok Suggestions for speakups.
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Sector | Sold to the gentleman in front with the VOICE t-shirt
Back to item 2. How about Jim Read of FileStar/2 fame? I had
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MADvirc | asked him a while back, but he was busy. Said he'd consider
doing one though.
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WarpHoss | Lynn requested the Netlabs guru as Sector brought up earlier.
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mandie | that would be good...they've just released an update
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MADvirc | He also handles Unimaint now that SoftTouch dropped all OS/2
products.
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mandie | UniMaint also has a recent CSD
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WarpHoss | I would suggest the guy from FreeOS.
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* | WarpHoss also thinks it would be acoup to get Daniela Engert for a special Saturday session.
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mandie | great idea!
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MADvirc | Any chance on the Odin guys?
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WarpHoss | that's the netalbs gut Adrian Geschwend.
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WarpHoss | isn't it?
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mandie | yes
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WarpHoss | I type too fast.
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WarpHoss | :)
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mandie | I believe he's busy with exams right now.....
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WarpHoss | but in month or soo....
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WarpHoss | maybe not as busy.
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mandie | right...I would just hold off emailing him for about a month
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mandie | I'd like to get a schedule setup for the entire year
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MADvirc | Dani would be a great speakup. She has a hand in a lot of
things going on
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mandie | or atleast 3 months in advance
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* | WarpHoss thought the liason was going to do that... contacting and arranging....
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mandie | WarpHOss: I will and do :)
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WarpHoss | danke.
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mandie | unless, someone has something going on the side with someone
:)
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WarpHoss | :) your good at it.
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madodel | KICK MADvirc :your dead
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mandie | well, that was very serious!
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madodel | Emtec FTP froze and eventually took everything else with it
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WarpHoss | hmm we should have taken him seriously when he said he didn't
feel good. :)
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mandie | lol
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Sector | Since he's still here I would guess it was one of his clones
that got sick and was killed off...
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madodel | or perhaps I'm the clone and killed the original?
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WarpHoss | so mandie how many do you have on your list?
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Sector | That could be too
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mandie | right now I have Jim Read, Adrian Geschwend and Daniela :)
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mandie | I think it's time to have Tim Sipples back and I'd like to
invite Mike Persell
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WarpHoss | Do you have a particular person in mind ... ?
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mandie | Mike has taken a new position in IBM, but I'm not sure what
it is
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Sector | Mike's in Austin at the moment for a week
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WarpHoss | hmm... pshychic mandie.
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mandie | hehe
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WarpHoss | Just to toss out an idea.....
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mandie | toss on
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Sector | The clone has come back for revengeð
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WarpHoss | as for something that would garner attention,
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WarpHoss | and get maximum bang for the time spent....
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madodel | yes?
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* | Sector is holding his breath...
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mandie | stop hemming and hawing....get to the point :)
what do you folks think about 2 special guests at once in a
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WarpHoss | discussion amongst themselves... moderated by one or two
others...
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Sector | Could be interesting, who do you have in mindù
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WarpHoss | Say on a saturday... ..
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MADvirc | How about Tim Martin and Dan Casey?
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mandie | yes, who....we don't want to put two developers up against
each other :)
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WarpHoss | ROFL
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mandie | LOL
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mandie | better yet...Tim and Esther!
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WarpHoss | Nooo I didn't mean two developers against each other...
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MADvirc | OK, Tim, Dan and Esther
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WarpHoss | Timur.
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mandie | do you plan on paying him!
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mandie | what would Timur discuss?
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WarpHoss | j/k.
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WarpHoss | no seriously...
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mandie | wonder if there's any news on the Netscape homefront
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WarpHoss | Say Persell and Kaply...
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WarpHoss | or maybe God forbid the presidents of scoug and possi,
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WarpHoss | or the guy from os2.org and scoug president.
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mandie | hey, SCOUG is taking an active part in WarpTech
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WarpHoss | any combo of those we have in line...
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MADvirc | mandie: did you ever ask WT if they would like to do a
speakup?
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WarpHoss | I'd like to get Dan Porter.
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mandie | I would need to know the topic and I wouldn't want any two
together that would cause problem
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WarpHoss | And the guy from Relish...
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mandie | MAD: sure did...right after we discussed it and Esther felt
it was too early
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mandie | I can extend another invite...they do have more info to
present now
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mandie | WarpHoss: why would you want Dan Porter?
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mandie | I can see alot of flaming due to him dropping the ball on
JStreet Mailer
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mandie | he's basically stopped supporting OS/2
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WarpHoss | Why not? I'd like to know the real reasons behind his
failures as a vendor for OS/2.
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MADvirc | Speaking of JSM, We could ask the PolarBar crew to do a
speakup
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mandie | well, I made a couple of requests for him to do a speakup and
never got a respons
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WarpHoss | yes we could MADvirc.
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mandie | and that's when he still supported os/2
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MADvirc | WH: Lack of customer support
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WarpHoss | I like the idea... of the dual speakup .. as long as we set
the topic and arrange the right two people.
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WarpHoss | gsahca : please forgive me for not greeting you earlier.
welcome to #voice.
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gsahca | Thank you and good evening
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WarpHoss | Redoaks. Long time no see.
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Redoaks | Hello Warphoss & all
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Redoaks | Did anyone elses GTIRC blow up?
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Redoaks | I'm back on EZirc
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mandie | Redoaks: do you have the latest ifx for GTIRC?
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mandie | ifx=fix :)
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Redoaks | Mandie ???
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mandie | just a sec
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Sector | Blow up in what wayù
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Redoaks | Locks the desktop to a 3-finger salute
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Sector | On startupù
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* | WarpHoss lets the channel drift...
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Redoaks | Sector-yes
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Sector | Ctrl-ESC twice will fix that
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Sector | Or the latest patch for 3.x also fixes the problem
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MADvirc | WH: we about done with item 2.?
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Redoaks | Tried it-no go
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Sector | Started with Fixpack 10 or 11
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MADvirc | 5
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mandie | Redoaks: go here and check out the CSD
http://www.gt-online.com/html/gt_irc.html
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Redoaks | OK Thanx Mandie
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WarpHoss | I think we are about done MADvirc.
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Sector | It sure wasn't fixpack five, I didn't have the problem till
either 10 or 11...
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MADvirc | Hmmm, maybe that's why I can't seem to use GTIRC 3 in W4 FP12
anymore. Works fine on WSeb though
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Sector | Get the latest patch, or hit Ctrl-Esc a couple of times after
starting
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mandie | the freeze became a problem with fp11
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mandie | a notice went out August 4, 1999
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Sector | Yeah, thought it was 11, but I never put 10 on this system I
use for IRC so I wasn't sure
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Redoaks | I went from FP8 to FP12
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mandie | It was due to a problem loading OS/2 multimedia modules
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mandie | I'd suggest the CSD :)
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Sector | That doesn't work for 2.07 though...
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mandie | no, it's for 3.0
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Sector | Uh huh...
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mandie | where are we with the agenda
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WarpHoss | we finished item one and item 2 is almost gone.
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WarpHoss | item 3 is anything we didn't cover in one and 2.
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mandie | that about covers it :)
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WarpHoss | lol.
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WarpHoss | for those who weren't here earlier :
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WarpHoss | !ask log
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VoiceBot | [log] http://abelmcc5.rbdc.com/cgi-bin/ghosthoss.cmd?
(Sector)
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WarpHoss | hello IronHead you snuck in when I was distracted. :)
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mandie | that's a pretty broad statement :)
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WarpHoss | lol
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Ironhead | hi WarpHoss Thats how I get things done!
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WarpHoss | ok so item 3 is general interest. Anything anoyone wants to
bring up or discuss?
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Redoaks | yeah-does anyone know how well Aurora replaces the Warp 4 on
a desktop?
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Rat-Salad | does great here
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MADvirc | Do you need SMP?
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WarpHoss | the beta or WSeB?
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Redoaks | I'm not sure, I really want an upgraded Warp
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Sector | Aurora was the beta of WSeB
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Redoaks | Will it run Win OS/2
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MADvirc | It certainly certainly isn't worth $1600 for a desktop
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mandie | Brianna is requesting a lullabye...brb
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Redoaks | Look what people pay for NT
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MADvirc | unless you really need SMP
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Redoaks | What is SMP?
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Sector | Symetrical Multi Processing
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MADvirc | Symetric Multi-Processing
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Sector | More then one processor in the same system...
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Redoaks | Thank you
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Redoaks | I don't need that, but who knows in the future
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Redoaks | Is there anything Warp4 does that WSeB cannot?
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Sector | What do you need upgraded in 4ù
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MADvirc | RIght now WSeb = W4+FP10 with the addition of SMP support,TCP/IP 4.2.1. Minus VTD and the bonus pak apps.
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Redoaks | IMHO 4 needs a kernal upgrade. Sooner or later something will come up Daniella cannot patch
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Redoaks | I don't like Linux and hate MS.
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MADvirc | Good night all
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Sector | You left out the server addons, not too usefull on the desktop though
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mandie | nytol :)
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Sector | Goodnight MADvirc
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MADvirc | I am using LAN Server, but not PSNS
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MADvirc | BTW, it seems WSeb(the Aurora GA) doesn't like Peer
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MADvirc | And changing anything in MMOS2 is a real PITA. there is no Selective Uninstall for MMOS2 as there is in W4
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Sector | Hello DSOMber1
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DSOMber1 | Hello all.
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MADvirc | But WSeb does have DOS+win-OS/2 support
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