Due to unforseen problems with the WEBBnet IRC network's digital lines, the VOICE general meeting for May 4, 1998 was held on just one server and many people were unable to find us in time. WEBBnet apologize for the problems and are working to ensure future stability. We at VOICE further hope this wasn't too much of an inconvenience and that you'll come visit us on IRC again soon.
05-04-98 17:11:29 *** Log Activated #voice (F:\INTERNET\GTIRC30\#voice.log)
05-04-98 17:11:29 *** Freiheit (Freiheit@pm4-tst100.tstonramp.com) has joined #voice [17:11:29]
05-04-98 17:11:29 *** The topic for #voice is: OS/2 Support for the Individual and SOHO user. http://www.os2voice.org
05-04-98 17:11:29 *** Topic set by AbraxBot on Mon May 4 18:01:36 1998
05-04-98 17:11:29 *** Names on #voice: Freiheit @mandie i-sob @VoiceBot @AbraxBot @Projects Swanee @Abraxas @NewOrder
05-04-98 17:11:29 *** #voice Mode is (+tn )
05-04-98 17:11:30 *** #voice Mode change: +o Freiheit by AbraxBot
05-04-98 17:11:34 <mandie> hmm
05-04-98 17:11:43 <mandie> oh well
05-04-98 17:11:52 <Abraxas> that worked (on my bot, anyway)
05-04-98 17:12:08 <mandie> yep
05-04-98 17:12:17 * Freiheit is sending out a notice on the mail lists about WEBBnet being temporarily down and to use SekTorTech.dyndns.com only for tonight--any problems or additions?
05-04-98 17:12:29 <Projects> hehehe
05-04-98 17:13:02 * Projects just replied to Madodel's email saying about the same...
05-04-98 17:14:47 <Projects> heh... so did Abraxas :)
05-04-98 17:14:54 <mandie> there webserver is down also..so major problems
05-04-98 17:15:39 <mandie> wouldn't you know this would happen on a night that we have a meeting :(
05-04-98 17:16:01 <Freiheit> okay, well i sent to non-admin lists
05-04-98 17:16:14 <Freiheit> mandie, at least it wasn't during the SpeakUp
05-04-98 17:16:24 <mandie> thank goodness
05-04-98 17:16:42 <Projects> bah! cybercom still down :p
05-04-98 17:17:01 <Freiheit> man we've got a lot of chiefs in here
05-04-98 17:17:14 <mandie> almost looks like a board meeting :)
05-04-98 17:17:25 <mandie> swanee: you going to Warpstock?
05-04-98 17:17:31 <Freiheit> and only two little Indians
05-04-98 17:17:35 <mandie> i-sob: how about you?
05-04-98 17:17:44 <Freiheit> hmm, soon it's gonna start to sound like an Agatha Christie novel
05-04-98 17:17:45 <Swanee> mandie: I don'r dare miss it!
05-04-98 17:17:54 <Swanee> don't
05-04-98 17:18:14 <mandie> swanee: I think you already told me..but I can't remember everyone that says they're going :(
05-04-98 17:18:20 <Swanee> mandie: I'm trying to decide if I should get a table...
05-04-98 17:18:33 <mandie> ahh
05-04-98 17:19:15 <Swanee> Freiheit: Glad to see the mailing list hit me :)
05-04-98 17:19:53 <Freiheit> hmm?
05-04-98 17:20:08 <mandie> swanee: you know...maybe you'd like to have a speakup sometime on Pillarsoft products :)
05-04-98 17:20:38 <Projects> swanee is pillarsoft?
05-04-98 17:20:42 * Freiheit does a double take--Pillarsoft? You're Pillarsoft?
05-04-98 17:20:44 <Freiheit> haha
05-04-98 17:20:54 <Swanee> haha what would I know other than getting out of trouble?
05-04-98 17:21:06 <Projects> heh
05-04-98 17:21:20 <mandie> swanee: do you have anything to do with the developement process of any of the apps?
05-04-98 17:22:07 <Swanee> mandie: That would be me
05-04-98 17:22:33 <mandie> swanee: then would you be willing to do a speakup on maybe Enhanced E Editor?
05-04-98 17:22:58 <mandie> or for that matter..can have a q/a on all 3 programs..and have someone else join you if you'd like
05-04-98 17:23:01 <Freiheit> Enhanced E & Enhanced EE--might as well hit both at the same time :)
05-04-98 17:23:04 * Projects gives up on lagnet :p
05-04-98 17:23:05 * mandie is wheeling and dealing!
05-04-98 17:23:16 <Swanee> mandie: I would be willing but I can't imagine it being worth to many peoples while...
05-04-98 17:24:05 *** joe (~jl2@dyn-24-213.paonline.com) has joined #voice [17:24:05]
05-04-98 17:24:14 <Swanee> I'd rather focus on WarpZip but no big deal either way
05-04-98 17:24:22 <Freiheit> hello joe
05-04-98 17:24:33 <joe> hello, thanks for the email
05-04-98 17:25:08 <mandie> how about if we advertise the speakup on as many programs as you'd like and the attendees can ask questions pertaining to their interest?
05-04-98 17:25:34 <mandie> Swanee: how about June 15?
05-04-98 17:26:00 <Freiheit> *mandie* any reply on the Opera/2 SpeakUp?
05-04-98 17:26:05 <Swanee> mandie: I'd do it although I am not one to push myself forward.
05-04-98 17:26:31 <Swanee> mandie: My biggest problem is that my typing skills would leave many prople waiting for lengthy periods
05-04-98 17:26:38 <Freiheit> haha
05-04-98 17:26:43 <NewOrder> *** Notice -- New highest connections: 10 (10 clients)
05-04-98 17:26:44 * i-sob has set away! (food! hungry! yay!) [Log:ON] .gz.
05-04-98 17:26:46 <NewOrder> heh :)
05-04-98 17:26:47 <mandie> Swanee: all they have is time in here anyway :)
05-04-98 17:26:48 <Swanee> prople=people
05-04-98 17:27:11 <mandie> Swanee: if you'd like to bring someone else to co-speak with you..that's fine too...just let us know who...is June 15 ok with you?
05-04-98 17:27:27 <Freiheit> well we could also just have a SpeakUp centered on programming in general
05-04-98 17:27:33 <Swanee> mandie: Can I check my golf tournament schedule? :)
05-04-98 17:27:36 <Projects> mandie's not gonna let go :)
05-04-98 17:27:38 <mandie> lol
05-04-98 17:27:44 <mandie> of course...first things first :)
05-04-98 17:28:04 <mandie> projects: well, I'm not one to normally push myself forward...hehehe
05-04-98 17:28:19 <Projects> hehehehe
05-04-98 17:28:23 <Freiheit> have a couple of shareware authors in to talk about programming (preferablly with inexpensive programming tools since we are about home/SOHO)
05-04-98 17:28:24 <Swanee> Sure, I'd do it. I like Freiheit's idea though too.
05-04-98 17:28:51 <Projects> that'd make two Speakups then :)
05-04-98 17:28:53 <mandie> swanee: what language to you program in?
05-04-98 17:29:04 <mandie> projects: you've got the idea :)
05-04-98 17:29:21 <Swanee> The apps I have out are all done with VisPro/Rexx
05-04-98 17:29:21 <Projects> mandie: he's not getting off that easy :)
05-04-98 17:29:34 <Freiheit> heh
05-04-98 17:29:44 <mandie> we could have a REXX bash!
05-04-98 17:29:57 <mandie> REXXStock!
05-04-98 17:30:01 <Freiheit> heh
05-04-98 17:30:04 <Projects> Swanee: ever used VX-REXX?
05-04-98 17:30:08 <Swanee> haha That could take some of the heat off me!
05-04-98 17:30:32 <Swanee> I own VX but haven't really used it
05-04-98 17:30:52 * Freiheit only owns--umm...Object REXX, 'cos it came with Warp 4
05-04-98 17:30:53 <Projects> same here...
05-04-98 17:31:15 <Freiheit> and I've no clue how to use it, though I'm trying to learn for a little (very little) script I need
05-04-98 17:31:22 <mandie> freiheit: would you post in your usual places..that we are going to have a Night With REXX...
05-04-98 17:31:30 * Projects uninstalled Object REXX
05-04-98 17:31:37 <mandie> oops...first let's wait until Wayne checks his golf schedule :)
05-04-98 17:31:51 <Freiheit> mandie, and let's check to see if anyone else will be speaking ;)
05-04-98 17:31:52 <Swanee> Freiheit: It's pretty easy or i wouldn't have been able to do it. :)
05-04-98 17:32:06 <mandie> I'll see if I can't get Bill Schindler to join us..."Teach yourself REXX in 21 days"
05-04-98 17:32:26 <Swanee> mandie: I'm sure it would be alright but I like the idea of others in the feild being there
05-04-98 17:32:27 <Freiheit> Swanee, I'm just no familiar (yet) with manipulating outside files
05-04-98 17:32:38 <mandie> I think Dirk Terrel does rexx also...
05-04-98 17:32:40 * Projects has that book, but never found the 21 days...
05-04-98 17:32:43 <Freiheit> no = not
05-04-98 17:32:44 <mandie> Terell
05-04-98 17:33:03 <Swanee> Dirk and Bill would be much more interesting to me!
05-04-98 17:33:12 <Swanee> :)
05-04-98 17:33:17 <mandie> Swanee: don't short sell yourself :)
05-04-98 17:33:34 <Projects> Swanee: you're not getting outta this that easily!
05-04-98 17:33:34 <Projects> :)
05-04-98 17:33:37 <Swanee> mandie: That's the way I operate.
05-04-98 17:33:41 <mandie> I'd like Mike Colishaw...but doubt that he'd oblige us
05-04-98 17:33:58 <Swanee> Projects: You're not helping me much :)
05-04-98 17:34:08 <mandie> we need a JAVA night also
05-04-98 17:34:21 <Freiheit> I'm no programmer, but I know that in the software industry, you can't afford to sell yourself short
05-04-98 17:34:46 <Freiheit> well, unless you're a freeware author :)
05-04-98 17:35:47 <Projects> Swanee: hehehe... well, if I hadn't of said it, mandie probably would have :)
05-04-98 17:35:47 <Swanee> hehe
05-04-98 17:35:47 <mandie> hehe
05-04-98 17:35:47 <mandie> freeware leads to shareware :)
05-04-98 17:35:47 <Swanee> mandie: Only if it's successful :)
05-04-98 17:35:47 <mandie> so you need to sell your skills there also to build confidence in the users
05-04-98 17:35:48 <mandie> right
05-04-98 17:35:50 <mandie> if you've got it ...flaunt it!
05-04-98 17:36:14 <Swanee> mandie: So what if they find out that I'm a dolt! There goes all those nice sales! :)
05-04-98 17:36:28 <mandie> swanee: we'll cover you :)
05-04-98 17:36:45 <mandie> we'll just say your lagged...hehehe
05-04-98 17:36:59 * NewOrder notes (aftert scrolling up) VisPro/REXX rocks :)
05-04-98 17:37:07 <Swanee> hehe
05-04-98 17:37:20 <Swanee> OK OK OK! I'll do it but I'm going to want some help...
05-04-98 17:37:23 <mandie> is anyone logging?
05-04-98 17:37:32 * Freiheit is always logging
05-04-98 17:37:39 <mandie> okokok!!! did you check your schedule?
05-04-98 17:37:42 <Swanee> OH, an electronic verbal contract!
05-04-98 17:37:49 <mandie> lol
05-04-98 17:37:50 <Freiheit> DMI auto-logs everything *except* for private chats, which I find odd
05-04-98 17:37:58 <mandie> this is VIRTUAL you know :)
05-04-98 17:37:59 <NewOrder> freiheit, I got the post to the warpstock mailing list.. only time will tell :)
05-04-98 17:38:10 <Freiheit> New, huh?
05-04-98 17:38:22 * i-sob has returned. .gz.
05-04-98 17:38:27 <Freiheit> hey i-sob
05-04-98 17:38:30 <Swanee> It's a monday mandie, I don't have any monday events until labor day
05-04-98 17:38:38 <NewOrder> Freiheit just saying the webbnet stuff being down post you made got to me :) heh :)
05-04-98 17:38:48 <Freiheit> oh
05-04-98 17:38:50 <mandie> great..we'll round something up for June 15 then ...and thx :)
05-04-98 17:39:00 <mandie> swanee: give me your email
05-04-98 17:39:14 <Freiheit> well if we're to have a REXX SpeakUp, should we ask Deek (DMI) to join?
05-04-98 17:39:24 <Swanee> mandie: Yeah... Thank you too... Are you a car saleperson perhaps?
05-04-98 17:39:30 <Swanee> :)
05-04-98 17:39:39 <Freiheit> heh
05-04-98 17:39:50 <Swanee> mandie: psoft@tech-center.com
05-04-98 17:39:53 <NewOrder> IRC scripts are nothing :) trying making a muiltithreaded IRCBot :) heheh.. if only rexx was powerfull enuff :)
05-04-98 17:39:56 <mandie> swanee: hehehe...nurse by profession...I've been known to be pretty convincing..especially witha syringe in my hand :)
05-04-98 17:39:57 * Freiheit hands Swanee the contract and says "Now sign here...and here--and over here."
05-04-98 17:40:09 <Swanee> hehe
05-04-98 17:40:37 <Freiheit> New, I've no doubt about that, but nonetheless he's a REXX scripter
05-04-98 17:40:44 <mandie> and don't read the fine print!
05-04-98 17:40:53 <Freiheit> there's fine print?
05-04-98 17:41:01 * Freiheit puts on his glasses and squints
05-04-98 17:41:04 * Projects witnesses...
05-04-98 17:41:05 <Freiheit> uh oh...
05-04-98 17:41:06 <mandie> freiheit: yes, I say we invite him..he knows the language
05-04-98 17:41:17 <Swanee> I've been looking at this monitor so long that I can't SEE the fine print!
05-04-98 17:41:47 <mandie> I wrote one rexx program and it's running on my homepage :)
05-04-98 17:41:53 <Projects> nothing to worry about in the fine print... just sign
05-04-98 17:41:55 <mandie> took me fooooorever :)
05-04-98 17:42:04 <NewOrder> Invoice: A34529 shipped <-- RedHat 5.0 "offical" is now shipping to me!!! :)
05-04-98 17:42:07 <mandie> projects: are YOU a car salesman!
05-04-98 17:42:11 <Swanee> It's actually pretty easy isn't it?
05-04-98 17:42:29 <mandie> NO: we only use OS/2 in here...the carrier pigeon won't deliver RH 5.0
05-04-98 17:42:31 <Freiheit> okay, I'll have to dig up Deek's e-mail addy
05-04-98 17:42:34 <Projects> mandie: heh... no, but I do sign a lot of contracts...
05-04-98 17:42:43 * Swanee thinks NewOrder should be MY agent!
05-04-98 17:42:53 <NewOrder> REXX is easy. But not to be put aside. it's great for scripts and small stuff.. but There is limites.. like my DYNDNS/2 4.0 clients.. thoses are borderline REXX or C/C++.
05-04-98 17:43:58 <mandie> freiheit: when you post this...go to os2ss REXX forum and post there also
05-04-98 17:44:17 <Freiheit> is that on the website?
05-04-98 17:44:18 <Swanee> NewOrder: Depending on what you are doing, yes, there are other tools that do some jobs better.
05-04-98 17:44:59 <mandie> yes
05-04-98 17:46:04 <Freiheit> anyone know of a good Post Road Mailer 2.6 to PMMail 1.96 converter for all my previous e-mails?
05-04-98 17:46:05 * Swanee wipes the sweat from his brow and takes a long drink...
05-04-98 17:46:10 <Freiheit> heheh
05-04-98 17:46:23 <mandie> swanee: :)
05-04-98 17:46:31 <NewOrder> Swane: after I tried some tests in #teenchat on 3 different networks with my bot. I found REXX to be to CPU intensive just to display the infomartion on the screen. when large amount of data is being manuplated (sp?) and changed around and processing data bases and perfroming WWW searching and stuff of that natures. it can only be done in C++ :)
05-04-98 17:47:04 <mandie> is abraxas here?
05-04-98 17:47:09 <mandie> lil lurker!
05-04-98 17:48:17 <Freiheit> okay, for the post I'll be making--it's for June 15? It's the REXX SpeakUp or just Swanee/Pillarsoft?
05-04-98 17:48:26 <Swanee> NewOrder: Yeah, the only other way to handle that is a dll written in C++ to handle the cpu intensive stuff and still be able to use the rexx tools.
05-04-98 17:49:11 * Swanee hopes they can find some more rexx guy's
05-04-98 17:49:23 <mandie> we will :()
05-04-98 17:49:34 * mandie crosses her fingers!
05-04-98 17:49:45 <NewOrder> Swanee even doing that with DLL's it's still going to do the same thing.... the functions are fast and easy, it's just running many of them.. only 3 connections used to much CPU just to do a rc =sockrecv(socket,data,1024); say data
05-04-98 17:49:53 * Swanee crosses mandie's fingers too!
05-04-98 17:50:12 <NewOrder> Swanee Linux and C++ I'm betting will be the best platform to do this on..
05-04-98 17:50:14 <mandie> :)
05-04-98 17:50:18 * Abraxas is here ... just out reading news
05-04-98 17:50:25 * NewOrder will be around.. just let me know :)
05-04-98 17:50:36 <Swanee> NewOrder: Oh OK, the number of connects is drawing to much cpu?
05-04-98 17:50:40 <Projects> hehehehe
05-04-98 17:51:13 <Freiheit> Swanee, what name shall I put in the announcement for you as a guest speaker?
05-04-98 17:51:22 <mandie> ok..here's a rexx question
05-04-98 17:51:22 <NewOrder> Swanee that and VisPro/REXX MLE (multi-line-entry-field) sucking big time.. that's the MAIN MAIN MAIN problem 70% of the problem
05-04-98 17:51:24 <Freiheit> and what URL for "more information"?
05-04-98 17:51:38 <Swanee> Freiheit: Swanee = Wayne Swanson
05-04-98 17:51:39 <mandie> Does anybody know whether there's a way in OS/2 REXX to make a password
05-04-98 17:51:39 <mandie> appear as ******* when it's typed on the screen and to capture what was
05-04-98 17:51:39 <mandie> actually entered?
05-04-98 17:52:10 <NewOrder> Swanee Agios did say it's not ment for that kinda of data and he's right.. with just 1 teenchat channel on my 486dx50 it takes 50% CPU just ot add something to it when there is about 50 lines of data
05-04-98 17:52:22 <mandie> Freiheit: Wayne Swanson will work :)
05-04-98 17:52:27 <mandie> oops...missed it
05-04-98 17:52:36 <NewOrder> mandie I and toss something to gether.. give me 10 minutes :)
05-04-98 17:52:38 <mandie> Wayne Swanson of Pillarsoft
05-04-98 17:52:48 <mandie> is that Pillarsoft Inc ?
05-04-98 17:52:51 <NewOrder> mandie I never did it and I'll have to do it before I can explain it :)
05-04-98 17:53:04 <Swanee> mandie: That is a control item in whatever paradigm you use. You can write a subroutine though to do it the hard/long way.
05-04-98 17:53:14 <mandie> NO: ok, it's a ? in the possi discussion mailing list
05-04-98 17:53:14 <NewOrder> mandie I'll make you a subprocedure that you can give credit to me fore :)
05-04-98 17:53:14 <mandie> thx ;)
05-04-98 17:53:22 <NewOrder> o o.k.
05-04-98 17:53:24 <Swanee> mandie: Yes and no Inc.
05-04-98 17:53:32 <mandie> NO, it's not for me...
05-04-98 17:53:35 <mandie> ok
05-04-98 17:53:48 <NewOrder> mandie you can post it for me :)
05-04-98 17:54:01 <mandie> she says
05-04-98 17:54:05 <mandie> As near as I can see translate() applies to changing
05-04-98 17:54:06 <mandie> the string. Any ideas?
05-04-98 17:54:17 <NewOrder> no no no..
05-04-98 17:54:24 <NewOrder> translates just make things rom one case to another
05-04-98 17:54:31 <NewOrder> you gota be more creative then that :)
05-04-98 17:55:26 *** Bluegrass (wjdelong@32.100.18.56) has joined #voice [17:55:26]
05-04-98 17:55:38 <NewOrder> mandie so as the person is typing "*"'s pop up instead of the letters...
05-04-98 17:55:39 <Freiheit> heya Bluegrass
05-04-98 17:55:40 <Swanee> Actually I beleive you could make translate work
05-04-98 17:55:51 <Bluegrass> Aha! I found y'all...
05-04-98 17:55:53 <NewOrder> actully.. that's a little tuffer then I thought
05-04-98 17:56:02 <mandie> Bluegrass: hi!!
05-04-98 17:56:14 <Projects> damn, and here we thought we'd hidden ourselves quite well :)
05-04-98 17:56:21 <NewOrder> haha :)
05-04-98 17:56:22 <Freiheit> New--have it save the keystrokes but only print (to the screen) *
05-04-98 17:56:50 <NewOrder> Freiheit it's not that easy. but that's the idea
05-04-98 17:56:50 <mandie> ok, lets talk some voice business and save the REXX for June 15 :)
05-04-98 17:56:52 <Swanee> mandie: Are you talking a text mode app or a pm rexx app. It would make a difference in how you trap keys or strings
05-04-98 17:56:57 <mandie> Bluegrass: know REXX?
05-04-98 17:56:58 <Freiheit> I dunno how that would be done in REXX though
05-04-98 17:57:00 <mandie> let me check
05-04-98 17:57:02 <Swanee> mandie: AMEN! :)
05-04-98 17:57:05 <Freiheit> *nod*
05-04-98 17:57:29 <mandie> All of this is in pursuit of my mission to beat gte.net's dialup process
05-04-98 17:57:30 <mandie> into submission. I just want to pass the password along without its
05-04-98 17:57:30 <mandie> echoing on my screen.
05-04-98 17:57:31 <Bluegrass> I do some Rexx coding, but only batch stuff.
05-04-98 17:57:58 <mandie> Bluegrass: we're planning on having a Night with REXX on June 15 :)
05-04-98 17:58:16 <mandie> bluegrass: do any java?
05-04-98 17:58:23 <mandie> and I don't mean coffee :)
05-04-98 17:58:31 <Bluegrass> mandie: I'd like to join.
05-04-98 17:58:52 <Projects> join?
05-04-98 17:59:00 <mandie> ok, abraxas ...have an agenda?
05-04-98 17:59:10 <Bluegrass> mandie, I'm planning on learning Java to replace my Rexx stuff. Is that reasonable?
05-04-98 17:59:11 * Swanee has to go refill his Mountain Dew and draw a deep breath...
05-04-98 17:59:14 <mandie> Bill's here..time to get down to business :)
05-04-98 17:59:27 <mandie> bluegrass: should be doable
05-04-98 17:59:31 <NewOrder> well, rexx *IS* limited with the basic commands.. THe only way is to basicly use gotoxy() (I know that's a pascal function but you get the idea :) ) and quickly cover up the current position with a * :)
05-04-98 17:59:36 <mandie> swanee: hehe
05-04-98 17:59:46 <NewOrder> or use an external DLL
05-04-98 18:00:21 * Abraxas looks for his agenda ....
05-04-98 18:00:27 <Projects> hrm... you can do that?
05-04-98 18:01:06 <NewOrder> yep.. I can...
05-04-98 18:01:10 * mandie is so proud...I've receive about 5 emails say WOW, I like your new site! :)
05-04-98 18:01:12 * NewOrder 's got skills :)
05-04-98 18:01:25 <Freiheit> woohoo mandie
05-04-98 18:01:32 <Freiheit> I don't get those kinds of e-mails about my site :)
05-04-98 18:01:32 <Projects> :)
05-04-98 18:02:01 <mandie> well you should!
05-04-98 18:02:06 <Freiheit> heck, I hardly get *any* comments about my site
05-04-98 18:02:08 <Projects> <-- skill-less, clueless, and just about any other type of 'less' you wanna throw in there
05-04-98 18:03:04 <mandie> projects: now there you go selling yourself short!...hmm..how tall are you anyway :)
05-04-98 18:03:05 <mandie> ok we need to discuss some projects that we want to work on
05-04-98 18:03:06 <Abraxas> mandie How many volunteers do you think we'll need for the table at Warpstock?
05-04-98 18:03:13 <Projects> mandie: hehehe... 6'
05-04-98 18:03:32 <mandie> Abraxas: how about we wait on that just a little bit until we work out some other details :)
05-04-98 18:03:37 <Projects> why don't I have mandie's new site bookmarked? Argh...
05-04-98 18:03:47 <Abraxas> k
05-04-98 18:03:55 <mandie> projects: you're no good! :)
05-04-98 18:04:14 <mandie> how about the q/a from the possi discussion mailing list for our website
05-04-98 18:04:22 <Projects> mandie: what's your url again?
05-04-98 18:04:36 <mandie> that can take alot of time and if we could get the archive and split it up between ppl
05-04-98 18:04:38 <mandie> !ask mandie
05-04-98 18:04:40 <AbraxBot> [mandie] Not found.
05-04-98 18:04:40 <VoiceBot> mandie http://oeonline.com/~mandie1 (mandie)
05-04-98 18:04:40 <VoiceBot> mandie http://oeonline.com/~mandie1 (mandie)
05-04-98 18:04:43 <mandie> hwrong!
05-04-98 18:04:57 <Abraxas> hehe
05-04-98 18:04:58 <mandie> http://www.gt-online.com/~bri
05-04-98 18:05:01 <Projects> that's not right...
05-04-98 18:05:06 <mandie> dumb bot!
05-04-98 18:05:12 * Projects HAS that one bookmarked :p
05-04-98 18:05:30 <Abraxas> gotta whip that bot of yours into shape, mandie :-)
05-04-98 18:05:35 <Projects> hehehe
05-04-98 18:05:58 <mandie> !ask mandie
05-04-98 18:06:00 <AbraxBot> [mandie] Not found.
05-04-98 18:06:00 <VoiceBot> mandie http://www.gt-online.com/~bri (mandie)
05-04-98 18:06:00 <VoiceBot> mandie http://oeonline.com/~mandie1 (mandie)
05-04-98 18:06:08 <mandie> it stutters too!
05-04-98 18:06:38 <Bluegrass> ally's calling. see you next time.
05-04-98 18:06:45 <mandie> bluegrass: nite
05-04-98 18:06:55 <Freiheit> later
05-04-98 18:06:58 *** Bluegrass has left #voice [18:06:58]
05-04-98 18:07:16 <mandie> well, guess we'll wait for members to discuss our projects :(
05-04-98 18:07:19 *** Signoff: i-sob (Nursery Cryme .gz.) [18:07:19]
05-04-98 18:07:19 <Abraxas> mandie how'd you manage to get 2 difefrent sets with the same name?
05-04-98 18:07:40 <mandie> the bot took a liking to me :)
05-04-98 18:07:45 <mandie> !ask mandieirc
05-04-98 18:07:48 <AbraxBot> [mandieirc] Not found.
05-04-98 18:07:56 <mandie> !ask irc
05-04-98 18:07:56 <AbraxBot> [irc] Not found.
05-04-98 18:07:56 <VoiceBot> irc http://oeonline.com/~mandie1/irc_clients.html (mandie)
05-04-98 18:07:56 <VoiceBot> irc http://oeonline.com/~mandie1/irc_clients.html (mandie)
05-04-98 18:07:59 <mandie> hmm
05-04-98 18:08:08 <mandie> lot's of duplicates
05-04-98 18:08:33 <Freiheit> VoiceBot seems to be pulling from 2 databases
05-04-98 18:08:42 <Freiheit> maybe you shadowed it?
05-04-98 18:08:48 <mandie> no, it's all in one
05-04-98 18:08:52 <Freiheit> copied it to another drive?
05-04-98 18:08:53 <Freiheit> hmm
05-04-98 18:09:51 *** chmims (~chmims@slip129-37-244-143.tx.us.ibm.net) has joined #voice [18:09:51]
05-04-98 18:10:07 <chmims> hi all
05-04-98 18:10:09 <Freiheit> hiya
05-04-98 18:10:15 <Swanee> hi chmims
05-04-98 18:10:25 <Abraxas> chmims Hi, glad you found us
05-04-98 18:10:35 <mandie> !ask warpstock
05-04-98 18:10:37 <AbraxBot> [warpstock] Not found.
05-04-98 18:10:37 <VoiceBot> warpstock http://www.warpstock.org for information (mandie)
05-04-98 18:10:37 <VoiceBot> warpstock http://www.warpstock.org for information (mandie)
05-04-98 18:10:39 <chmims> Definite server problems.
05-04-98 18:10:50 <mandie> I must have copied it twice to the same file
05-04-98 18:10:53 <mandie> I'll have to fix that
05-04-98 18:11:17 <mandie> nothing worse than a stuttering bot!
05-04-98 18:11:48 <Projects> well, an anti-social one's worse...
05-04-98 18:12:06 <mandie> true ...mines been know to be that also :)
05-04-98 18:12:11 <mandie> known too
05-04-98 18:12:31 <Projects> heh... yup :)
05-04-98 18:13:13 <Abraxas> Projects hehe ... you haven't seen anti-social, yet ... I once *tried* to setup an eggy on a Linux system .... after 10 minutes of idle time, it kicked everyone in the channel :-(
05-04-98 18:13:36 <mandie> lol..
05-04-98 18:14:06 <Projects> Abraxas: hahahaha
05-04-98 18:14:09 <mandie> Ya'll come back soon now..hear.../k *
05-04-98 18:14:10 <mandie> :)
05-04-98 18:14:29 <Projects> hmm... webbnet pissed someone off by the looks of things...
05-04-98 18:14:39 <Abraxas> couldn't find it in the process list .... had to shut down the Linux box to kill it :-(
05-04-98 18:14:50 <mandie> I can't recall exactly what it was..but they were having some problems
05-04-98 18:14:55 <Projects> whoops... not webbnet, PSS did
05-04-98 18:15:13 <Projects> *** for the folks that are part of Webbnet - PSS' Digital lines have now been shut off, so Suntrix is temp. down - They're working on getting things together within the hour. Bellsouth said to PSS "If you wouldn't have gone to the Utilities commission, we wouldn't have to do this" - Suntrix is going to switch around - I am the alternate contact person. More will come in netmail as soon as they can get their systems back online.
05-04-98 18:15:41 <mandie> ahh
05-04-98 18:16:12 <mandie> maybe they should check into the Whistle Blowers Act :)
05-04-98 18:16:19 *** Dirk (~terrell@algol.falcon-net.net) has joined #voice [18:16:19]
05-04-98 18:16:19 <Freiheit> sounds like BellSouth is having an ego problem
05-04-98 18:16:25 <Freiheit> hey Dirk
05-04-98 18:16:26 <mandie> Dirk!!! welcome :)
05-04-98 18:16:34 <mandie> and speaking of the *devil*
05-04-98 18:16:35 <Dirk> Greets all. :-)
05-04-98 18:16:39 <Projects> whistle blowers act?
05-04-98 18:16:42 <mandie> Dirk you know REXX ...correct :)
05-04-98 18:16:47 <Abraxas> sounds like 2 kids fighting over whos right and wrong
05-04-98 18:16:50 <Projects> hehehe
05-04-98 18:16:51 <Dirk> Some say so. :-)
05-04-98 18:16:53 <Projects> sign here ________________
05-04-98 18:17:01 <Freiheit> :)
05-04-98 18:17:02 <Abraxas> hehehe
05-04-98 18:17:17 <mandie> Dirk: We are planning a Night with REXX on June 15 and would like you to join us..I was going to email you tonight :)
05-04-98 18:17:24 * Swanee hopes Dirk is ready for what he is about to recieve...
05-04-98 18:17:26 <Abraxas> Projects is QUICK :-)))
05-04-98 18:17:27 <Swanee> :)
05-04-98 18:17:41 <mandie> projects: yes, you blow the whistle on someone they can not retaliate against you
05-04-98 18:17:47 <Dirk> Uhh, ok. :-) Doing what?
05-04-98 18:17:48 <Projects> notice I left out the fine print :)
05-04-98 18:18:06 * Abraxas noticed that Projects left out ALL the print
05-04-98 18:18:10 <Projects> mandie: first time I've ever heard about it
05-04-98 18:18:15 <Projects> shhhhh!
05-04-98 18:18:17 <Swanee> Abraxas: lol
05-04-98 18:18:20 <Freiheit> Dirk, a SpeakUp session for people wanting to discuss programming/scripting in REXX
05-04-98 18:18:25 <mandie> Dirk: discussing REXX programming..and Wayne Swanson will discuss VisPro/REXX
05-04-98 18:18:44 <mandie> Dirk: what languages do you work with?
05-04-98 18:18:52 <Dirk> Ahh, gotcha. No problem.
05-04-98 18:19:00 <mandie> great! thx :)
05-04-98 18:19:22 <Dirk> Oh, let's see Fortran, C++, Java, and Rexx mainly.
05-04-98 18:19:42 <Freiheit> if it wouldn't tread over Warpstock, I'd say we might have a beginning REXX programming course--a one day "write your first REXX app" thing
05-04-98 18:20:10 <mandie> Great, I'd like to set one up for Java also
05-04-98 18:20:14 <Freiheit> but I know Warpstock had that last year and they might have it again this year
05-04-98 18:20:24 <mandie> Freiheit: that wouldn't be treading I wouldn't think..they are going to have Birds of a feather slots open
05-04-98 18:20:37 <mandie> Freiheit: oh, with Dick GoraN
05-04-98 18:20:38 <Freiheit> mandie, ahhh--very true
05-04-98 18:20:46 <Swanee> mandie: I'd hate to take away from Dirk's time. :) Can I just watch? I could learn something.
05-04-98 18:20:54 <mandie> can be informal
05-04-98 18:20:54 <Swanee> hehe
05-04-98 18:20:57 <mandie> Swanee: no backing out now bud :)
05-04-98 18:21:02 <Swanee> hahaha
05-04-98 18:21:13 <mandie> Dirk: will you be going to Warpstock?
05-04-98 18:21:25 <Dirk> Yep, I do belive so.
05-04-98 18:21:30 <mandie> great!
05-04-98 18:21:33 <Swanee> OK but Dirk, You'll have to carry the load. I may have questions for you too!
05-04-98 18:21:52 <Dirk> Thomas Bradford, trevor Smith, and I were talking about it.
05-04-98 18:22:00 <mandie> Dirk: know anyone else proficient in REXX that I might contact?
05-04-98 18:22:09 <Dirk> Swanee: Man, did I wander into the wrong room or what? :-)
05-04-98 18:22:23 <Swanee> hehe, I warned you. :)
05-04-98 18:22:26 <Projects> hehehehe... __________________
05-04-98 18:22:29 <mandie> That would be neat! I've talked to Thomas many times ..would be nice to meet him...and you of course :)
05-04-98 18:22:36 <Dirk> mandie: Let me think a bit...
05-04-98 18:22:40 <mandie> ok
05-04-98 18:22:44 <Abraxas> Dirk we didn't mean to pounce on you (well manidie probably did ) :-)
05-04-98 18:23:03 <Dirk> :-)
05-04-98 18:23:09 *** SteveL (steve53@pool011-max5.gg-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net) has joined #voice [18:23:09]
05-04-98 18:23:18 <Freiheit> greetings SteveL
05-04-98 18:23:20 <mandie> Abraxas: I had already mentioned him ..and was going to email tonight :)..his ears must have been burning :)
05-04-98 18:23:21 <Projects> lots of people asking about this meeting on efnet
05-04-98 18:23:23 <Swanee> mandie: Me too, I tried to get Thomas to model the new t-shirts. He said Netscape doesn't support the .ugly format.
05-04-98 18:23:25 <Dirk> (My cat just decided it was attention time...)
05-04-98 18:23:31 <mandie> hehe
05-04-98 18:23:52 <Swanee> I've got to meet him. I promised him a round of golf
05-04-98 18:24:03 <mandie> swanee: so should I bring my clubs?
05-04-98 18:24:23 <Swanee> YES, all work and no play... right?
05-04-98 18:24:33 *** PoohBear (PoohBear@sdn-ts-006watacoP09.dialsprint.net) has joined #voice [18:24:33]
05-04-98 18:24:42 <mandie> hehe...I haven't touched a club in about 4 years :(
05-04-98 18:24:44 <PoohBear> Hi.
05-04-98 18:24:46 <mandie> Pooh!!
05-04-98 18:24:58 <Swanee> mandie: You'll fit right in. :)
05-04-98 18:25:03 <mandie> :)
05-04-98 18:25:10 <PoohBear> If you guys haven't heard - Sunny and Trix is down due to PSS getting their digitial lines shut off.
05-04-98 18:25:24 <mandie> Pooh: yes, we heard..thx :(
05-04-98 18:25:26 <Projects> mandie: but you've used cluebats lately... same thing :)
05-04-98 18:25:36 <mandie> glad it wasn't on a speakup night
05-04-98 18:25:42 <mandie> projects: lol
05-04-98 18:26:05 <Dirk> I've been thinking about setting up an IRC server for this stuff.
05-04-98 18:26:16 <PoohBear> mandie: warpedworld.dyndns still a Webbnet server?
05-04-98 18:26:28 <mandie> PoohBear: yes
05-04-98 18:26:45 *** Signoff: joe (Ping timeout) [18:26:45]
05-04-98 18:26:59 <mandie> Dirk: that would be great...would you have your own hub?
05-04-98 18:27:17 <PoohBear> mandie: you know their plans for tomorrow? to change IP blocks and get away from PSS temporarlly, right?
05-04-98 18:27:23 <mandie> we use WEBBnet as our networking hub
05-04-98 18:27:51 <Dirk> I would have to look into it and see what was involved, but yeah, I wanted to set up something independent.
05-04-98 18:27:53 <mandie> pooh: no, have heard nothing definite from them...I hope they send out email with the new C/N lines
05-04-98 18:28:16 *** zeosx (srs@129.37.68.209) has joined #VOICE [18:28:16]
05-04-98 18:28:37 <Projects> zeosx! :)
05-04-98 18:28:53 <zeosx> I just read my email... so what did I miss?
05-04-98 18:28:58 <zeosx> thanks projects!
05-04-98 18:29:00 <Freiheit> hi zeosx
05-04-98 18:29:03 *** The topic for #voice is: Welcome to all that have managed to find us, tonight!
05-04-98 18:29:05 <Projects> zeosx: do any REXX programming? If so, sign here______________
05-04-98 18:29:24 * Projects is spreading the word in effnet
05-04-98 18:29:25 <Freiheit> heheh
05-04-98 18:29:32 <PoohBear> mandie: OK - here's the scoop. They're scrabling to get service via Orlando tonight - so they can get the mail servers up, at least. Then, tomorrow, they're going to setup a temporary contract with another ISP till this is resolved with PSS. IP numbers will be changing, CNames will not.. I am the secondary contact person for them, per Nikki's request.
05-04-98 18:29:40 <mandie> projects: wondered how ppl were finding us :)
05-04-98 18:29:54 <zeosx> Projects: the pen won't work on the monitor...
05-04-98 18:29:58 <mandie> pooh: ok
05-04-98 18:30:10 <mandie> pooh: you have my email address
05-04-98 18:30:15 <mandie> pooh: check my new pages :)
05-04-98 18:30:17 <mandie> !ask mandie
05-04-98 18:30:18 <Projects> zeosx: it's a virtual signature :) do you do REXX?
05-04-98 18:30:20 <AbraxBot> [mandie] http://www.gt-online.com/~bri (Abraxas)
05-04-98 18:30:20 <VoiceBot> mandie http://www.gt-online.com/~bri (mandie)
05-04-98 18:30:27 <mandie> blah! still 2 :(
05-04-98 18:30:37 <mandie> oh, one per bot :)
05-04-98 18:30:46 <Abraxas> mandie nope ... one of them is from my bot
05-04-98 18:30:48 <Projects> heh... but two different sets :)
05-04-98 18:30:59 <mandie> right :)
05-04-98 18:31:12 <zeosx> Projects: never got around to doing REXX... I hear its powerful
05-04-98 18:31:21 <Abraxas> gotta do sets in public if you want them to match :-)
05-04-98 18:31:51 <mandie> I blew my rexx program for the new page away by copying over it last night...I was really bummed...but then I found a almost finished copy :)
05-04-98 18:31:57 <Projects> zeosx: ah... ok, you're off the hook then :)
05-04-98 18:32:47 <Freiheit> http://www.cgisales.com/cgisales/os2.htm
05-04-98 18:32:56 <Freiheit> that's an OS/2 site I've never seen before
05-04-98 18:32:59 * Swanee says "Always backup" mandie
05-04-98 18:33:08 <Freiheit> A-Z listing of OS/2 related site
05-04-98 18:33:21 <PoohBear> hmm.
05-04-98 18:33:32 <Freiheit> looks a tad old--they still have SPG
05-04-98 18:33:33 *** traze (~lifetap@Governs.the.Theory.of.Relativity.Net) has joined #voice [18:33:33]
05-04-98 18:34:12 <Freiheit> *gasp* and they don't have Judy's Warped World -or- The 13th Floor
05-04-98 18:34:20 * Freiheit is writing them a letter *lol*
05-04-98 18:34:31 <mandie> freiheit: can't have it all :)
05-04-98 18:34:42 * Projects cancels the download then...
05-04-98 18:34:42 <PoohBear> THat's a crime punishable by DEATH!
05-04-98 18:34:42 <PoohBear> :)
05-04-98 18:34:42 <Abraxas> No VOICE either
05-04-98 18:34:43 <mandie> lol
05-04-98 18:34:52 <mandie> del bookmark stat!
05-04-98 18:34:53 <Freiheit> hmm, no Warpstock
05-04-98 18:34:54 * NewOrder almost has the password thing :)
05-04-98 18:35:27 * Projects never got the page loaded
05-04-98 18:35:28 <PoohBear> Not having warpedworld there, man.... KILL THE WEBMASTER!
05-04-98 18:35:29 <mandie> pooh :)
05-04-98 18:35:51 <mandie> NO: the question has already been answered...thx :)
05-04-98 18:36:09 <mandie> by none other than Dirk ...ehehehe
05-04-98 18:36:10 <NewOrder> madnie where? and send the answer to me :)
05-04-98 18:36:29 <mandie> SysGetKey('NoEcho') in a loop and LEAVE when you get the CR. Oh,
05-04-98 18:36:47 <mandie> and you can use CharOut() to put a * on the screen for each letter.
05-04-98 18:36:56 <Abraxas> weird site .... anyone click on "Missing Link"?
05-04-98 18:37:00 <NewOrder> manie. hmmm simliar.
05-04-98 18:37:23 <Freiheit> Abraxas, yep :)
05-04-98 18:37:28 <mandie> I would have had to pull out the 3 rexx books and hope to find something :)
05-04-98 18:37:30 * NewOrder wonders how parents know the EXACT time I get working on a little prject to bother the crap outof me..
05-04-98 18:37:42 <mandie> parents know all!
05-04-98 18:37:51 <NewOrder> manide. "view rexx" from command line is all you need..
05-04-98 18:38:02 <Projects> heh... kids do it to parents too... payback time :)
05-04-98 18:38:06 <mandie> NO: I've used the online help also
05-04-98 18:38:38 <NewOrder> it's either when I'm working on something liek the password thing and or in a nice peacefull sleep.. any other time when I wouldn't mind doing any thing for htem. they never need me.
05-04-98 18:38:57 <Dirk> (i'm on the phone BTW...)
05-04-98 18:39:06 <mandie> Dirk: ok :)
05-04-98 18:39:08 <Abraxas> Projects yep ... my son always wants to have a "serious" discussion, while I'm in a BoD meeting, or writing an article for the newsletter .... never any other time :-)
05-04-98 18:39:26 <mandie> same with hubby!
05-04-98 18:39:40 <mandie> so it's not just kids :)
05-04-98 18:40:11 <Abraxas> mandie my son doesn't even live here ... he just seems to know when I'm busy, and drops in
05-04-98 18:40:13 <Freiheit> !ask mandi
05-04-98 18:40:15 <Freiheit> err
05-04-98 18:40:17 <Freiheit> !ask mandie
05-04-98 18:40:18 <AbraxBot> [mandi] Not found.
05-04-98 18:40:20 <Projects> Abraxas: I hear ya...
05-04-98 18:40:21 <AbraxBot> [mandie] http://www.gt-online.com/~bri (Abraxas)
05-04-98 18:40:21 <VoiceBot> mandie http://www.gt-online.com/~bri (mandie)
05-04-98 18:40:35 <mandie> abraxas: hehe
05-04-98 18:40:55 <mandie> put one of those "Do Not Disturb" signs on your front door :)
05-04-98 18:41:30 <Abraxas> mandie Oh, no .... then he'd bring his friends .... wanting to know what's going on :-)
05-04-98 18:41:42 <mandie> LOL
05-04-98 18:41:45 <Swanee> Why do you guy's give your addesses to your kids?
05-04-98 18:41:48 <Projects> kids can't read unless it's what they want to read... can't hear either :p
05-04-98 18:42:00 <mandie> selective hearing :)
05-04-98 18:42:06 <PoohBear> Do Not Disturb = "interrupt me, I'm not doing anything that's like critical to anybody but me"
05-04-98 18:42:07 <Projects> yup
05-04-98 18:42:23 <mandie> Pooh: that's about it
05-04-98 18:42:26 <Abraxas> Swanee my son lives down the street from me ... he pretty well knows where I live :-)
05-04-98 18:42:41 * Projects 's kids still live at home
05-04-98 18:42:47 <NewOrder> change the locks
05-04-98 18:43:11 <mandie> My daughter will be home from Luxumbourg next Sat...be her Monday..I can't wait! :)
05-04-98 18:43:12 <Swanee> Abraxas: That's a good reason to move or say you moved and don't answer the door anymore.. :)
05-04-98 18:43:23 <Projects> no doors on the dining room to lock
05-04-98 18:43:34 <Abraxas> Swanee hehe ... can't do that .... I'd have noone to teach me C++
05-04-98 18:43:38 <mandie> projects: doors are cheap!
05-04-98 18:43:43 <Swanee> haha
05-04-98 18:43:46 <Dirk> ok I'm back
05-04-98 18:43:50 <Freiheit> me too
05-04-98 18:43:51 <Projects> mandie: need walls to put the doors in :)
05-04-98 18:43:51 <Freiheit> :)
05-04-98 18:44:05 <mandie> projects: details! :)
05-04-98 18:44:26 * Projects *could* put locks on the kids' bedroom doors... hmm...
05-04-98 18:44:37 * traze is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On]
05-04-98 18:44:44 <mandie> Dirk: I'll send you a reminder about the June 15 session and I've already asked that it be posted in your REXX forum on ss
05-04-98 18:44:56 <Dirk> ok
05-04-98 18:45:09 <Freiheit> yep, I'll get to posting that probably next week
05-04-98 18:45:23 <Dirk> Which reminds me. I'd better get to writing this month's article...
05-04-98 18:45:27 <Freiheit> so we can find out if "Deek" will be coming
05-04-98 18:45:31 <mandie> Freiheit: ok, maybe we can come up with a couple of other ppl to list
05-04-98 18:45:42 <Freiheit> and so we don't cross lines with too many announcements out at once :)
05-04-98 18:45:54 <Abraxas> Freiheit that's one we could put in the newsletter, and on the website ... we have enough advance planning
05-04-98 18:45:54 <mandie> I have to write my EA article that's due tomorrow :(
05-04-98 18:46:04 * Swanee ponders the virtues of duct tape as a binding agent...
05-04-98 18:46:05 <Dirk> I see you work like I do. :-)
05-04-98 18:46:19 <mandie> Dirk: never know when I might change my mind :)
05-04-98 18:46:31 <Dirk> :-)
05-04-98 18:46:53 <mandie> Dirk: are you doing an article for EA this month also?
05-04-98 18:47:05 <PoohBear> mandie: after your done with that EA article, get together with sunny and write up a "US Telephone Companies: The Mob lives again" article.. <:
05-04-98 18:47:16 <Dirk> Not that I am aware of. :-)
05-04-98 18:47:19 <Abraxas> PoohBear hehehe
05-04-98 18:47:22 <Freiheit> ha
05-04-98 18:47:22 <mandie> hehe
05-04-98 18:47:29 <mandie> Dirk: then I take that as a no :)
05-04-98 18:47:41 <NewOrder> any one know where Spoc has gone to?
05-04-98 18:47:53 <Dirk> No, I'm not writing anything. I have my hands full at the moment.
05-04-98 18:48:02 <Abraxas> NewOrder just "away, Offline" for 2-6 weeks
05-04-98 18:48:14 <PoohBear> NewOrder: somewhere in spokane.. :>
05-04-98 18:48:20 <NewOrder> Abraxas where dif he go?
05-04-98 18:48:41 <NewOrder> like for thoses 2-6 weeks :)
05-04-98 18:48:43 <Abraxas> NewOrder nowhere .... he said he "loaned out" his computer ???
05-04-98 18:48:49 <mandie> well, I'm going to take off folks and try to get some work done...
05-04-98 18:48:55 <PoohBear> eeeeeeeek!
05-04-98 18:48:58 <PoohBear> work!
05-04-98 18:49:01 * PoohBear hides in fear.
05-04-98 18:49:03 <PoohBear> :)
05-04-98 18:49:07 <Swanee> bye mandie
05-04-98 18:49:08 <Dirk> yeah, me too. Gotta do this month's invoicing...
05-04-98 18:49:11 <mandie> Dirk: if you think of someone else for the REXX...please email me.. bri@gt-online.com ..thx
05-04-98 18:49:14 * NewOrder don't like work.. he pretends it play :) opr something
05-04-98 18:49:22 <mandie> swanee: g'night
05-04-98 18:49:24 <Dirk> mandie: will do
05-04-98 18:49:24 * Abraxas walked in from work about 15 minutes before the meeting started
05-04-98 18:49:29 <Projects> invoicing... damn!
05-04-98 18:49:31 <mandie> nytol :)
05-04-98 18:49:33 <Swanee> see you later Dirk
05-04-98 18:49:37 <Abraxas> cya, mandie
05-04-98 18:49:38 *** Signoff: mandie (Leaving) [18:49:38]
05-04-98 18:49:41 <Dirk> later Swanee
05-04-98 18:49:42 * Projects forgot the invoicing...
05-04-98 18:49:44 <Dirk> and all...
05-04-98 18:49:50 <Freiheit> night
05-04-98 18:49:52 <Abraxas> g'night, dirk
05-04-98 18:49:53 * NewOrder is going to watch TV
05-04-98 18:49:55 <chmims> and to all a good night
05-04-98 18:49:58 *** Signoff: Dirk (Leaving) [18:49:58]
05-04-98 18:50:00 *** Signoff: chmims (Leaving) [18:50:00]