05-28-97 19:48:30 *** Log Activated #VOICE (F:\TCPIP\GTIRC\#VOICE.log)
05-28-97 19:48:30 *** The topic for #VOICE is: Promote OS/2 discussion group
05-28-97 19:48:30 *** Topic set by VoiceBot on Wed May 28 17:52:54 1997
05-28-97 19:48:30 *** Names on #VOICE: MADodel @VoiceBot
05-28-97 19:48:31 *** #VOICE Mode is (+ )
05-28-97 19:51:44 <UncleGrim> hey MAD
05-28-97 19:53:46 <Stryder> Hello all.
05-28-97 19:53:53 <UncleGrim> hey Stryder
05-28-97 19:54:17 <Stryder> How is everybody this fine evening ?
05-28-97 19:54:35 <UncleGrim> decent
05-28-97 19:55:05 <UncleGrim> just signed up for that contest to win Warp 4 + IBM AV + ummmm, something else
05-28-97 19:56:17 <Stryder> Which contest is that UncleGrim ?
05-28-97 19:56:35 <mandie> hello :)
05-28-97 19:56:40 <UncleGrim> umm--I think it's on one of the secant pages
05-28-97 19:56:44 <Stryder> Hello mandie.
05-28-97 19:56:47 <UncleGrim> hey os2hq & Judy
05-28-97 19:56:48 <os2hq> Howdy Y'all.
05-28-97 19:56:48 <mandie> stryder: hi
05-28-97 19:57:12 <UncleGrim> heheh
05-28-97 19:57:26 <os2hq> Thanks, Mandie
05-28-97 19:57:31 <Stryder> Saving me the kick mandie ? :)
05-28-97 19:57:31 <os2hq> Hey Guru!
05-28-97 19:57:32 <mandie> Warpguru: hello
05-28-97 19:57:35 <mandie> stryder :)
05-28-97 19:57:42 <WarpGuru> Hey!
05-28-97 19:57:44 <UncleGrim> http://www.secant.com/sipples/wacawaka.htm
05-28-97 19:57:45 <Stryder> Hello os2hq, long time no see. How is life treating you ?
05-28-97 19:57:47 * MADodel has no problems with botty.
05-28-97 19:57:49 <UncleGrim> there's 2 contests
05-28-97 19:57:50 <mandie> stryder: you're still on a numeric ip :(
05-28-97 19:57:58 <os2hq> Well, okay, except there's no jobs here in Nashville.
05-28-97 19:57:59 <Stryder> Hello Warpguru.
05-28-97 19:58:13 <os2hq> I guess that's what I get when there's 2% unemployment: Jobs already are filled!
05-28-97 19:58:20 <MADodel> os2hq: you mean you can't play the fiddle?
05-28-97 19:58:26 <WarpGuru> I apologize for missing Monday. My brain was still on holiday! ;)
05-28-97 19:58:26 <UncleGrim> 1 is to win Warp 3 Connect and some internet server kit and the other is to have your OS/2 website judged and win Warp 4 + AV
05-28-97 19:58:31 <Stryder> Mandie yeah, have not gotten around to changing yet :)
05-28-97 19:58:32 <WarpGuru> Hi, Stryder!
05-28-97 19:58:36 <UncleGrim> hey Egon
05-28-97 19:58:41 <os2hq> MAD: Nope, & Nashville isn't burning either!!
05-28-97 19:58:51 <MADodel> :-)
05-28-97 19:58:54 <Stryder> Hello MADodel.
05-28-97 19:58:55 <WarpGuru> os2hq: How are ya?
05-28-97 19:58:58 <Egon> Hey UG...and Look I'm on time this time around
05-28-97 19:59:06 <MADodel> hello Stryder
05-28-97 19:59:11 <mandie> egon: hi :)
05-28-97 19:59:18 <os2hq> Hey there WG, good to see ya again. Still looking for work here. Need a techie?
05-28-97 19:59:19 <Egon> MANDIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05-28-97 19:59:32 <os2hq> Wow, tire trax...
05-28-97 19:59:36 <mandie> hehe
05-28-97 19:59:41 <WarpGuru> os2hq: No need in Nashville - yet!
05-28-97 19:59:59 <os2hq> I might be working for a Russian lady selling Wimp95 PCs though.
05-28-97 20:00:07 <os2hq> She needs a sales guy who can assemble PCs.
05-28-97 20:00:24 <UncleGrim> oooh, Russian
05-28-97 20:00:29 <os2hq> Now if we can just get the entire Nashville OS/2 user group to mob her store....
05-28-97 20:00:33 <Egon> well i think that we need to get on with this becuase there is a bulls games starting in an hour
05-28-97 20:00:36 <WarpGuru> You of all people should be able to convince her that Wapr is the way to go!!
05-28-97 20:00:37 <os2hq> While I'm working there....
05-28-97 20:00:49 <Stryder> Is that a hint Egon ? :)
05-28-97 20:01:07 <os2hq> It's worth a try, I might bring one of my PCs for the odd hours with no walkins ;)
05-28-97 20:01:35 <Egon> that is a HINT
05-28-97 20:01:36 <os2hq> WarpGuru: I'm willing to relocate if you need someone somewhere within a day's drive...
05-28-97 20:02:03 <WarpGuru> os2hq: Perhaps you could be Millennium in TN.
05-28-97 20:02:17 <Stryder> DC *always* needs computer folks.
05-28-97 20:02:23 <os2hq> I had hoped to be employed for a while and let others take care of the paperwork.
05-28-97 20:02:29 <Stryder> Washington that is.
05-28-97 20:02:34 <os2hq> Paperworks s...s.
05-28-97 20:02:43 <mandie> MADodel: you did a very nice job on the newsletter!
05-28-97 20:02:48 <os2hq> Stry: any OS/2 jobs??
05-28-97 20:02:52 <WarpGuru> DC will grind to a halt in 2000
05-28-97 20:02:55 <os2hq> Yes, MAD, very nice.
05-28-97 20:02:57 <Stryder> os2hq quite a few.
05-28-97 20:03:07 <mandie> sunnybear: hi :)
05-28-97 20:03:11 <Stryder> I concur great job MADodel.
05-28-97 20:03:12 * UncleGrim says ominously: "Welcome, haunted SunnyBear , to the foolish mansion."
05-28-97 20:03:12 <os2hq> WG: No, maybe it will just get started in 2000 - nothing like a reset!!!
05-28-97 20:03:26 <Stryder> LOL
05-28-97 20:03:32 <os2hq> Stry: Send me a copy of Sunday DC paper if you don't mind please.
05-28-97 20:03:35 <MADodel> thank you mandie, os2hq
05-28-97 20:03:39 <Stryder> Where oh where is epsilon...
05-28-97 20:03:41 <MADodel> thanks Stryder
05-28-97 20:03:52 <os2hq> Tom Nadeau, 408 West End Ave. #168, Dickson, TN 37055
05-28-97 20:03:55 <Stryder> os2hq OK, email me your mailing address, I will send the post to you.
05-28-97 20:03:56 <mandie> stryder: doesn't he normally have church on Wed's ?
05-28-97 20:03:57 <SunnyBear> dandie mandie: howdy there...
05-28-97 20:04:00 <mandie> projects: hi :)
05-28-97 20:04:02 <os2hq> It's a mail drop I plan to use regularly.
05-28-97 20:04:07 <os2hq> Hey Proj!
05-28-97 20:04:20 <Stryder> Hello Projects.
05-28-97 20:04:24 <UncleGrim> Hey there Projects , what's up?
05-28-97 20:04:27 <os2hq> Well, just Psarin now, but I think he said not this week?
05-28-97 20:04:34 <Egon> I need some good html development tools for OS/2 anyone gots any ideas?
05-28-97 20:04:35 <SunnyBear> projects: hey there!!
05-28-97 20:04:36 <Projects> hi guys (and mandie)
05-28-97 20:04:52 <Projects> and Sunny :)
05-28-97 20:04:55 <mandie> egon: tools??...as in editor?
05-28-97 20:04:55 <SunnyBear> html studio...
05-28-97 20:04:58 <os2hq> Look, we should have that stuff on the Website, Egon!!!
05-28-97 20:05:01 <mandie> egon: html studio :)
05-28-97 20:05:10 <os2hq> Like what's the top 3 OS/2 native of each type of app!!!!
05-28-97 20:05:11 <Projects> html studio hands down :)
05-28-97 20:05:24 <Stryder> I agree with Projects.
05-28-97 20:05:27 * UncleGrim has tried HTML Studio and WebWriter/2 and says he can type the tags out by hand faster
05-28-97 20:05:30 <SunnyBear> Projects: and hands up too.
05-28-97 20:05:34 <UncleGrim> if it ain't WYSIWYG, I don't need it
05-28-97 20:05:50 <MADodel> the pros seem to like html studio. I like HPP. I'm a simple man and I code simple pages.
05-28-97 20:06:02 <UncleGrim> plus there's the HTML 3.2 reference (in .inf format) which is helpful
05-28-97 20:06:03 <mandie> os2pos: welcome :)
05-28-97 20:06:05 <UncleGrim> hey pos
05-28-97 20:06:11 <Projects> html studio is getting more awards than any other html tool for OS/2
05-28-97 20:06:11 <Projects> Sunny: :)
05-28-97 20:06:13 <Stryder> Hello OS2pos
05-28-97 20:06:21 <os2hq> Okay, let's have our Webperson put the tools list on the Website.
05-28-97 20:06:21 <SunnyBear> We used Page for a long time on Warp
05-28-97 20:06:23 <UncleGrim> Wish I could have gotten IBM Home Page Builder to install
05-28-97 20:06:31 <os2hq> Same with Native Java builders as well.
05-28-97 20:06:32 <OS2pos> hi Stryder
05-28-97 20:06:34 <Projects> studio is going to have lynx/2 previews in it's next release, along with the ns/2 and webex previews
05-28-97 20:06:44 <mandie> egon: check out my html page http://oeonline.com/~mandie1/html_info.html
05-28-97 20:06:47 <os2hq> So what's the best OS/2 Java kit???
05-28-97 20:07:29 <mandie> Abraxas: hi :)
05-28-97 20:07:30 <UncleGrim> hey Abraxas
05-28-97 20:07:40 <UncleGrim> as always, I'm right on the trigger :-)
05-28-97 20:07:41 <Abraxas> Hi, all (almost forgot hehe)
05-28-97 20:07:45 <SunnyBear> Abraxas: welcome
05-28-97 20:07:55 <Stryder> Hello Abraxas.
05-28-97 20:07:57 <os2hq> Hey, gettin' quite a group now!!
05-28-97 20:08:35 <mandie> WarpGuru: can I ask you to think up a trivia question for tonight's door prize?
05-28-97 20:08:57 <mandie> being the *Guru* that you are :)
05-28-97 20:09:05 <os2hq> Trivia question everyone knows: who found the world's first computer bug?
05-28-97 20:09:37 <UncleGrim> Umm...Babbage
05-28-97 20:09:41 * UncleGrim shrugs
05-28-97 20:09:43 <WarpGuru> Ok
05-28-97 20:09:44 <os2hq> Grim: LOL!!!!
05-28-97 20:09:49 <Abraxas> The Orkin/2 man?
05-28-97 20:09:49 <mandie> os2hq: that went over big :)
05-28-97 20:09:57 <WarpGuru> Grace Hopper
05-28-97 20:09:57 <mandie> abraxa: hehe
05-28-97 20:10:04 <os2hq> I'm really surprised. Abraxas is closest. Guru got it!!!!
05-28-97 20:10:14 <OS2pos> Billy Gates
05-28-97 20:10:17 <os2hq> It was a COCKROACH!
05-28-97 20:10:24 <WarpGuru> I have a copy of the notebook page stuck somewhere in my archives.
05-28-97 20:10:25 <mandie> lol
05-28-97 20:10:30 <UncleGrim> nono, Gate$ "created" the first computer bug
05-28-97 20:10:32 <Abraxas> OS2pos: no, gates CREATED the first bug
05-28-97 20:10:34 <Egon> ok I have the trail version of HTML Studio and it looks nice and I did beta test it but I need a regged version I have to much to do to have a trial version
05-28-97 20:10:35 <WarpGuru> The bug was pasted to the page.
05-28-97 20:10:38 <UncleGrim> heheh
05-28-97 20:10:39 <os2hq> No, OS2pos, Billy didn't have a mirror!!!
05-28-97 20:10:40 <MADodel> OS2pos: he didn't ask who coded the first bug.
05-28-97 20:10:41 <UncleGrim> lol Abraxas
05-28-97 20:10:53 <WarpGuru> Give me a minute to come up with a good trivia q.
05-28-97 20:11:09 <OS2pos> lol
05-28-97 20:11:16 <WarpGuru> Should it be restricted to Warp or to PCs in general or to computing as a whole?
05-28-97 20:11:35 <os2hq> Smart small, WG, and work larger circles as needed.
05-28-97 20:11:37 <mandie> MAD: you've had these with trivia questions before...will they /msg warpguru with the answer...and the first correct one wins?
05-28-97 20:11:49 <MADodel> WarpGuru: how about a 360 Assembler question?
05-28-97 20:11:51 <mandie> let's wait until about 8:30p to ask the question plz
05-28-97 20:12:20 <UncleGrim> hey crazyhay
05-28-97 20:12:24 <WarpGuru> No assembler. THats TOO trivial. I will wait till 8:30 to ask it.
05-28-97 20:12:24 <Stryder> How about a cobol 74 question ?
05-28-97 20:12:42 <Stryder> :)
05-28-97 20:12:43 <MADodel> mandie: usually /msg the answer
05-28-97 20:12:45 <crazyhay> hello, UncleG, my first time here, I messed up on time zones before
05-28-97 20:12:48 <UncleGrim> cobol74? Is that what they used to program Win95?
05-28-97 20:12:50 <os2hq> Grrr! No stacking the deck!!
05-28-97 20:12:56 <WarpGuru> By the way. I sent out a bunch of email today to announce our meeting tonight.
05-28-97 20:12:59 <Projects> young!
05-28-97 20:13:06 <UncleGrim> hi young
05-28-97 20:13:08 <young> hiz-el-o :)
05-28-97 20:13:10 <mandie> young!!! hiya :)
05-28-97 20:13:11 <os2hq> WarpGuru: apparently it worked!!!
05-28-97 20:13:17 <mandie> speaking of htmlstudio :)
05-28-97 20:13:21 <os2hq> Howdy young, crazyhay....
05-28-97 20:13:26 <young> hiya mads, proj, und uncle :)
05-28-97 20:13:30 <Projects> :)
05-28-97 20:13:38 <mandie> warpguru: great!
05-28-97 20:13:42 <MADodel> hello young
05-28-97 20:13:56 <os2hq> My goodness, we'll never get to business with all the intros. I like that!!
05-28-97 20:13:57 <young> lo everybody :)
05-28-97 20:13:58 <mandie> warpguru: how is the mailing list coming along..and any set date to start it?
05-28-97 20:14:01 <crazyhay> Anybody seen Links/2 yet?
05-28-97 20:14:05 <MADodel> Can we start this, my daughter needs her bath soon.
05-28-97 20:14:20 * Abraxas thinks that he only thing that DIDN'T go wrong with the Indy 500 was the scoring....Scored by OS/2!
05-28-97 20:14:27 <os2hq> Crazy: looking forward to it very much. DOS version is getting old here. Even Mom is getting good at it.
05-28-97 20:14:45 <mandie> crazyhay: not yet, but Brad Wardell will be here June 18th and a copy of Links/2 will be given away
05-28-97 20:14:45 <os2hq> Abraxas: Didn't they downgrade to Nortel this year???
05-28-97 20:14:48 <UncleGrim> heheh
05-28-97 20:15:24 * UncleGrim says: "It's time."
05-28-97 20:15:32 <Abraxas> os2hq: I think Nortel did the networking...IBM installed the scoring system 3 or 4 years ago.
05-28-97 20:15:33 <os2hq> I sent Psarin two really nice press releases....
05-28-97 20:15:39 <UncleGrim> that is, if you wanted to start this at 1/4 after
05-28-97 20:15:41 <os2hq> Well, that's fine.
05-28-97 20:15:48 <os2hq> Let's go!!
05-28-97 20:15:53 <Stryder> Sounds good to me.
05-28-97 20:15:55 <WarpGuru> mandie: I still don't have all the peices. I will try to set it up soon. I will have some time in the next couple days to work on it.
05-28-97 20:16:09 <crazyhay> Brad wouldn't want to hear this, but I was going to pre-order Links/2 by 6/1 deadline, till I saw the 6/18 door prize
05-28-97 20:16:18 <MADodel> *os2hq* what is your email address? I got a bounce back today on .
05-28-97 20:16:28 <mandie> crazyhay: hehe
05-28-97 20:16:48 *os2hq* I hope you didn't, it's supposed to be correct. Unless they cut me off??
05-28-97 20:17:06 *os2hq* I'm going Mindspring tomorrow I think but I'll still keep the old address.
05-28-97 20:17:24 *os2hq* There's no "real" ISPs out here an hour from Nash.
05-28-97 20:17:31 <Stryder> I think the fact that mandie has gotten Brad to show up is GREAT ! She deserves a LARGE WELL DONE !
05-28-97 20:17:42 <mandie> thx :)
05-28-97 20:17:45 <os2hq> GOOD JOB MAND!!!
05-28-97 20:17:59 <WarpGuru> GREAT JOB!!! MANDIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05-28-97 20:17:59 <crazyhay> kudos to mandie from here as well
05-28-97 20:18:02 <os2hq> Brad should give her a copy of L/2 also!
05-28-97 20:18:02 <UncleGrim> ack, lag
05-28-97 20:18:13 <mandie> shh, you're going to make me blush :)
05-28-97 20:18:14 <Stryder> Hello ptackbar
05-28-97 20:18:14 <os2hq> Hey pt!
05-28-97 20:18:16 * UncleGrim says ominously: "Welcome, haunted ptackbar , to the foolish mansion."
05-28-97 20:18:22 <mandie> ptackbar!! hi :)
05-28-97 20:18:32 <ptackbar> hey UncleGrim and mandie :)
05-28-97 20:18:48 <young> So whats this neeting about?
05-28-97 20:19:06 <os2hq> Yes, there was no agendae...
05-28-97 20:19:08 <young> sunnybear was that you I was talking to a while back?
05-28-97 20:19:23 <Stryder> I think we need to summarize where we are, and where we need to go.
05-28-97 20:19:29 <os2hq> Summary:
05-28-97 20:19:30 <Stryder> That was my general thought about tonight.
05-28-97 20:19:41 <os2hq> 1. Web page is still not ready for public consumption.
05-28-97 20:19:41 <ptackbar> hey os2hq
05-28-97 20:19:47 <os2hq> Hey PT!
05-28-97 20:19:55 <Stryder> I sent a message earlier, but have not received any today, so it may have died in route.
05-28-97 20:20:04 <os2hq> 2. Still don't have nonprofit status.
05-28-97 20:20:07 <crazyhay> summary very helpful for we first-timers tonight
05-28-97 20:20:14 <os2hq> 3. Still need mailing list.
05-28-97 20:20:15 <ptackbar> where's epsilon?
05-28-97 20:20:21 <Stryder> os2hq is right, the page is up, but really not primetime.
05-28-97 20:20:25 <WarpGuru> I have one thing to bring up. I will no longer be able to attend the Wednesday meetings. I have been asked to join the search committe for our church which is looking for a new rector. Wednesdays are the nights we meet.
05-28-97 20:20:47 <UncleGrim> :-(
05-28-97 20:20:49 <os2hq> 4. Good things: we have a Server (WG thanx), we have a starter page, we have a newsletter format...
05-28-97 20:20:53 <mandie> ;(
05-28-97 20:21:00 <Stryder> Sorry to hear that WarpGuru.
05-28-97 20:21:07 <WarpGuru> Mee too!
05-28-97 20:21:08 <os2hq> WarpGuru: Can't they do it online? I know you can multitask well...
05-28-97 20:21:42 <os2hq> 5. We have SpeakUp sessions (fantastic name).
05-28-97 20:21:45 <WarpGuru> I would love to do it on line!! Only about 1/2 of the members even have computers. I am working on it! ;)
05-28-97 20:21:49 <mandie> Did everyone receive my email today regarding the webpage and the lack of progress?
05-28-97 20:22:03 <WarpGuru> I will try to be at most of the Monday meetings.
05-28-97 20:22:09 <os2hq> Mandie: yep, and agreed as well.
05-28-97 20:22:10 <Stryder> I think I answered that one a minute ago mandie :)
05-28-97 20:22:10 <ptackbar> I didn't but maybe I wasn't supposed to :)
05-28-97 20:22:21 <Stryder> No mail today....
05-28-97 20:22:23 <UncleGrim> ptack, same here
05-28-97 20:22:32 * ptackbar is now out of school for a while and may be able to help more than expected earlier
05-28-97 20:22:39 <os2hq> How about an update on the kitty, Proj????
05-28-97 20:22:40 <WarpGuru> re 2: We need to incorporate ASAP. The lawyer gets us nonprofit and a tax ID as part of the package.
05-28-97 20:22:43 <Projects> mandie: yes
05-28-97 20:22:45 <UncleGrim> not being on the mailing list, I naturally didn't get the mail
05-28-97 20:22:56 <OS2pos> hi ptackbar
05-28-97 20:22:59 <ptackbar> hey OS2pos
05-28-97 20:23:01 <WarpGuru> Gery needs to contact my lawyer ASAP!
05-28-97 20:23:09 <WarpGuru> uh...Gary.
05-28-97 20:23:46 <Stryder> You were close WarpGuru: Gerry :)
05-28-97 20:23:54 *** Scanner2 (sdrake@208.197.126.97) has joined #VOICE [20:23:54]
05-28-97 20:23:57 <Stryder> I thought we agreed to hold off on incorporation ?
05-28-97 20:24:01 <UncleGrim> hmm, suntrix is hanging on the lagging edge
05-28-97 20:24:11 <os2hq> Hi Scanner!
05-28-97 20:24:21 <WarpGuru> Duh.
05-28-97 20:24:25 <Stryder> Until after the page was up and we saw how things were going ?
05-28-97 20:24:28 <MADodel> *ptackbar* I see Acrobat 3.0 allows you to create .pdf's
05-28-97 20:24:32 <Scanner2> Hello All!!
05-28-97 20:24:36 <os2hq> Let's get a cash report from Projects and see how close we are.
05-28-97 20:24:38 <Stryder> Hello scanner2
05-28-97 20:24:58 *ptackbar* really? coool :) maybe we can get Adobe's attention if it's successful :)
05-28-97 20:25:03 <mandie> scanner2: hi :)
05-28-97 20:25:30 <Scanner2> mandie: Hiiiiii!!!!
05-28-97 20:25:33 <Stryder> Is my imagination or is lag hitting some of the folks pretty bad ?
05-28-97 20:25:34 <UncleGrim> irc.isonline isn't
05-28-97 20:25:38 <crazyhay> just because a number of others reported otherwise, I'll note I did get meeting notification by e-mail
05-28-97 20:25:41 <WarpGuru> I have said that I will front the cash. We really should not be taking money without a tax ID. It is also next to difficult to set up a real bank account without one.
05-28-97 20:26:16 <os2hq> I like webpage stuff but have no time. Let's see if Proj wants it.
05-28-97 20:26:23 <os2hq> If not, anyone else???
05-28-97 20:26:43 <ptackbar> os2hq: want what?
05-28-97 20:27:01 <mandie> Wouldl anyone like to volunteer as webmaster?
05-28-97 20:27:12 <Stryder> To take over the position as webmaster for VOICE.
05-28-97 20:27:16 <ptackbar> do we not currently have a webmaster?
05-28-97 20:27:19 <Projects> treasury has $415.23 CAN in there now
05-28-97 20:27:25 <os2hq> Ptackbar: somebody has to be the new webmaster. You, or Proj, or somebody....
05-28-97 20:27:33 <Stryder> Roughly how much in US Projects ?
05-28-97 20:27:37 <ptackbar> what happened to epsilon (if it's safe to ask)
05-28-97 20:27:38 <ptackbar> ?
05-28-97 20:27:47 <os2hq> Projects: thanks. We need more $$$ to incorporate.
05-28-97 20:27:51 <Stryder> Epsilon does not seem to have time right now.
05-28-97 20:27:53 <UncleGrim> heheh, if it's safe to ask :-b
05-28-97 20:28:00 * trixer wishes all a good evening
05-28-97 20:28:04 <Egon> 30minutes...
05-28-97 20:28:06 <mandie> trixer: welcome :)
05-28-97 20:28:06 <UncleGrim> hey trixer
05-28-97 20:28:15 <os2hq> How about we incorporate when we have enuf funds, that will prove our momentum??
05-28-97 20:28:16 <ptackbar> well, I'm totally willing to *make* the page...but I'm not good at making the material for the page :) no what I mean?
05-28-97 20:28:19 <WarpGuru> Hi trixer
05-28-97 20:28:24 <os2hq> Even'n trixer
05-28-97 20:28:25 <mandie> os2hq: agreed
05-28-97 20:28:30 <trixer> WarpGuru!
05-28-97 20:28:36 <ptackbar> no=know of course :)
05-28-97 20:28:40 <Projects> Stryder: according to paid memberships, $300 US
05-28-97 20:28:59 <Stryder> I agree os2hq I DO NOT want WarpGuru holding the bag.
05-28-97 20:29:01 <Projects> Stryder: but with changing rates...
05-28-97 20:29:03 <os2hq> Well, folks, I'm pretty good at generating material, but not good at writing HTMLs.
05-28-97 20:29:05 <WarpGuru> Projects: I have not sent my $$ in yet. I will do so tomorrow.
05-28-97 20:29:20 <ptackbar> OS2hq: I'm pretty good at writing htmls but not at generating info :)
05-28-97 20:29:28 <os2hq> PT: LOL!
05-28-97 20:29:29 <Stryder> Is that a match made in heaven I detect ? os2hq and ptackbar ??? :))
05-28-97 20:29:33 <Projects> WarpGuru: 'kay
05-28-97 20:29:35 <ptackbar> :)))
05-28-97 20:29:37 <os2hq> Sounds like we've almost got a committee!!!
05-28-97 20:29:39 * UncleGrim is pretty good at HTML but no good at Java, CGI, or JavaScript
05-28-97 20:30:09 <os2hq> What I need now is a site of my own to post material to be grokked by Ptack...
05-28-97 20:30:13 <ptackbar> ok, do you guys wanna stick with the current format or is that copyrighted to Epsilon? :)
05-28-97 20:30:21 <mandie> psarin has an excellent page for VOICE going....and he said we are welcome to take any html code that we want
05-28-97 20:30:22 <Stryder> Sounds like we have three folks ready to help out. Thanks.
05-28-97 20:30:22 <MADodel> Can you guys work together on it? It's beyond a priority at this point.
05-28-97 20:30:31 <os2hq> There are no copyrights. All submissions were made property of VOICE.
05-28-97 20:30:40 <ptackbar> gotcha
05-28-97 20:30:46 <ptackbar> well, someone tell me what to do and I'll do it :)
05-28-97 20:30:48 <Stryder> I say take the best from psarin, and epsilons.
05-28-97 20:30:55 <os2hq> Allright, I'll try to post some materials soon.... Where?
05-28-97 20:30:59 <mandie> stryder: I agree
05-28-97 20:31:13 <ptackbar> can I have the URL's again?
05-28-97 20:31:14 <UncleGrim> and take anything you want from my site, as well (as stated before)
05-28-97 20:31:15 <Stryder> So the WPC is composed of os2hq, ptackbar and unclegrim. Is that OK with the involved parties ?
05-28-97 20:31:16 <SunnyBear> what all are you needing done with a web page/site?
05-28-97 20:31:19 <WarpGuru> The QUESTION of the evening is: [Drum roll].....
05-28-97 20:31:27 <os2hq> I think the list of items in Dan's webpage was a great starting point AFA material goes.
05-28-97 20:31:36 <WarpGuru> Which version of OS/2 was the first to have REXX?
05-28-97 20:31:46 <ptackbar> WarpGuru: 2.0?
05-28-97 20:31:48 <trixer> 2.1
05-28-97 20:31:49 <mandie> http://www.dialup.rochester.edu/~psarin/voice
05-28-97 20:31:53 <young> WarGuru: 1.1
05-28-97 20:31:55 <WarpGuru> Nope
05-28-97 20:31:56 <Projects> 2.0
05-28-97 20:32:02 <UncleGrim> 1.3
05-28-97 20:32:03 <ptackbar> 3.0!
05-28-97 20:32:04 <Stryder> 1.3
05-28-97 20:32:06 <young> 1.3 :)
05-28-97 20:32:08 <mandie> mad: you logging?
05-28-97 20:32:11 <WarpGuru> None correct yet.
05-28-97 20:32:18 <young> 1.2
05-28-97 20:32:18 <Stryder> 1.0
05-28-97 20:32:21 <WarpGuru> I'm logging.
05-28-97 20:32:21 <MADodel> mandie yes
05-28-97 20:32:22 <Projects> heh... never had anything prior to 2.0 :)
05-28-97 20:32:26 <ptackbar> 1.0!
05-28-97 20:32:28 <SunnyBear> 3.0
05-28-97 20:32:35 <ptackbar> .93
05-28-97 20:32:42 <ptackbar> .01
05-28-97 20:32:42 <ptackbar> .23
05-28-97 20:32:43 <young> 2.11?
05-28-97 20:32:44 <Projects> 2.11
05-28-97 20:32:44 <UncleGrim> heheh
05-28-97 20:32:49 <OS2pos> warp 3
05-28-97 20:32:50 <Projects> hahahahaha
05-28-97 20:32:51 <crazyhay> for SURE before 3.0
05-28-97 20:32:53 <Stryder> 1.2
05-28-97 20:32:54 <UncleGrim> drat, I didn't even think of 2.11
05-28-97 20:32:55 <young> (reminds me of #trivia)
05-28-97 20:32:57 <WarpGuru> those guessing in the 1.x timeframe...WHICH 1.x? EE or SE?
05-28-97 20:32:58 <young> 1.3EE
05-28-97 20:33:07 <Stryder> 1.2 EE
05-28-97 20:33:07 <UncleGrim> EE or SE?!
05-28-97 20:33:07 <Abraxas> 1.3
05-28-97 20:33:14 <trixer> win3.11!
05-28-97 20:33:14 <mandie> uncle: ;hehe
05-28-97 20:33:16 <Projects> SE
05-28-97 20:33:17 * UncleGrim is stumped
05-28-97 20:33:17 <Projects> :)
05-28-97 20:33:18 <trixer> =)
05-28-97 20:33:19 <ptackbar> build #291101023
05-28-97 20:33:22 <young> 1.3SE
05-28-97 20:33:24 <WarpGuru> Extended Edition or Standard Edition.
05-28-97 20:33:31 <Stryder> 1.1 EE
05-28-97 20:33:33 <trixer> standard
05-28-97 20:33:35 <WarpGuru> Looks like Stryder has won it!
05-28-97 20:33:44 <WarpGuru> Hoorah!
05-28-97 20:33:45 <Abraxas> according to the REXX history, page 4 of Teach Yourself REXX in 21 days (Bill and Esther Schindler)
05-28-97 20:33:45 <UncleGrim> drat
05-28-97 20:33:51 <UncleGrim> congrats Stryder
05-28-97 20:33:51 <Stryder> :)
05-28-97 20:33:53 <MADodel> gee, took you guys long enough
05-28-97 20:33:56 <ptackbar> FREAK!
05-28-97 20:33:56 <Stryder> Thanks.
05-28-97 20:33:58 <Projects> damn, and I have that book too...
05-28-97 20:34:02 <young> Stryder: :)
05-28-97 20:34:03 <ptackbar> thought I had it with .01
05-28-97 20:34:10 <trixer> sure it wasn't win3.11?
05-28-97 20:34:23 <ptackbar> mandie: what's epsilon's?
05-28-97 20:34:30 <Stryder> LOL
05-28-97 20:34:44 <MADodel> !ask web.contest
05-28-97 20:34:44 <ptackbar> was that the PRM question?
05-28-97 20:34:50 <VoiceBot> [web.contest] Not found.
05-28-97 20:34:57 <MADodel> !ask contest
05-28-97 20:35:00 <ptackbar> MADodel: LOL!
05-28-97 20:35:01 <VoiceBot> [contest] Not found.
05-28-97 20:35:05 <MADodel> !ask voice.web
05-28-97 20:35:09 <VoiceBot> [voice.web] Until the os2voice.org url is running, see http://oeonline.com/~mandie1/voice.html (MADodel)
05-28-97 20:35:21 <MADodel> mandie where is that set?
05-28-97 20:35:23 <mandie> http://personal.netwrx.net/epsilon/voice/
05-28-97 20:35:36 <mandie> Mad: I believe I erased after contest
05-28-97 20:35:41 <mandie> !ask contest
05-28-97 20:35:42 <VoiceBot> [contest] Not found.
05-28-97 20:35:47 <ptackbar> umm
05-28-97 20:35:55 <ptackbar> why don't we just use psarin's? it seems complete already
05-28-97 20:36:19 * Projects agrees... psarin has done quite a job
05-28-97 20:36:28 <ptackbar> I like it too
05-28-97 20:36:31 <mandie> ptackbar: incorporated whatever you'd like...as long as we get it done yesterday :)
05-28-97 20:36:31 <WarpGuru> Yes he has!
05-28-97 20:36:48 <ptackbar> mandie: it's done! go to http://www.dialup.rochester.edu/~psarin/voice/
05-28-97 20:36:49 <ptackbar> :)
05-28-97 20:36:49 <WarpGuru> Just send me the files.
05-28-97 20:36:49 * mandie has incorporated on her mind ;)
05-28-97 20:37:13 <mandie> ptackbar: I've been there several times..it needs to be firmed up..some links don't work
05-28-97 20:37:21 <ptackbar> mandie: I see...
05-28-97 20:37:21 <WarpGuru> Is that anything like incporporeal punishment?
05-28-97 20:37:25 <Egon> I can all my attorney and have him help us get that done quickly
05-28-97 20:37:44 <Stryder> I agree with mandie, use what you need ptackbar, just get the page up :)
05-28-97 20:37:52 <mandie> WarpGuru: if it's not completed quickly...yes!
05-28-97 20:38:09 <UncleGrim> hmm, psarin used the older VOICE logo
05-28-97 20:38:18 <mandie> uncle: then you'll need the new one :)
05-28-97 20:38:25 <mandie> grab that from epsilons page :)
05-28-97 20:38:28 <Stryder> Folks, I would rather see a member win the prize, I just got caught up in the heat of the moment. I would like to ask Warpguru to come up with a new question and I promise not to screw it up this time :)
05-28-97 20:38:40 <Stryder> So I officially decline the prize.
05-28-97 20:38:44 <ptackbar> Stryder :)
05-28-97 20:38:51 <mandie> WebPage committee!!!
05-28-97 20:38:54 <Projects> Stryder: you are a member...
05-28-97 20:38:55 <ptackbar> question!
05-28-97 20:39:00 <WarpGuru> I don't think that we had a rule that a non-member could not win.
05-28-97 20:39:07 <mandie> IF you need any assistance or information please ask
05-28-97 20:39:10 <UncleGrim> Stryder's not a member?
05-28-97 20:39:11 <WarpGuru> And EVERYONE is a member here.
05-28-97 20:39:13 <Stryder> WarpGuru I am a paid member.
05-28-97 20:39:21 * UncleGrim isn't a member, but oh well
05-28-97 20:39:24 <mandie> it is for members and non members at this time
05-28-97 20:39:28 <Projects> Stryder is one of the first paid members...
05-28-97 20:39:36 <mandie> stryder: did you mean officers cannot win?
05-28-97 20:39:49 <WarpGuru> I agree that officers should not win.
05-28-97 20:39:53 <MADlog> gotta go, but will continue to log.
05-28-97 20:40:03 <mandie> Mad: see ya and thx
05-28-97 20:40:03 <UncleGrim> bye MAD
05-28-97 20:40:06 <Stryder> I meant that as an officer I did not feel I should win it.
05-28-97 20:40:21 <Stryder> Exactly WarpGuru.
05-28-97 20:40:25 <os2hq> Eating supper here, trying to keep up. Ma Kettle has spoken...
05-28-97 20:40:26 <mandie> ok, then lets have another question and officers don't answer :)
05-28-97 20:40:34 <ptackbar> so we can take *anything* we want off of psarin's page?
05-28-97 20:40:40 <mandie> ptack: yes
05-28-97 20:40:41 <WarpGuru> OK. Hang on.
05-28-97 20:40:42 <Stryder> I got carried away :) Won't happen again.
05-28-97 20:40:48 <Stryder> ptackbar Yes.
05-28-97 20:40:50 <UncleGrim> ptack, yes
05-28-97 20:40:51 <mandie> stryder: ;hehe
05-28-97 20:40:55 <UncleGrim> and Epsilon's
05-28-97 20:41:00 <mandie> uncle: yes
05-28-97 20:41:02 <UncleGrim> but Epsilon also has the older VOICE logo
05-28-97 20:41:05 <ptackbar> ok, where can I find a webmirroring tool for OS/2? ;P
05-28-97 20:41:06 <ptackbar> :)))))
05-28-97 20:41:10 * Projects resigns... just for a moment :)
05-28-97 20:41:14 <UncleGrim> I asssume ptack has the new one since he did make it?
05-28-97 20:41:17 <mandie> uncle: I'll give you the other 2 pages also that are property of voice
05-28-97 20:41:22 <Stryder> LOL projects
05-28-97 20:41:30 <MADlog> ptackbar: hpp does web mirroring
05-28-97 20:41:41 <WarpGuru> When the IBM PC was introduced in 1981, which four operating systems were available for it?
05-28-97 20:41:42 <Projects> ptackbar: there's a nice java one at hobbes... lemme see what it's called
05-28-97 20:41:43 <mandie> http://www.greenheart.com/ventura/voice/index.htm
05-28-97 20:41:52 <ptackbar> kewl
05-28-97 20:41:54 <mandie> hmm..I'm not sure about tandies :(
05-28-97 20:42:10 <Stryder> Those are great questions Warpguru. Where are you digging them up at ?
05-28-97 20:42:25 <Stryder> Start guessing folks.....
05-28-97 20:42:27 <mandie> http://warpedworld.dyndns.com/tandie
05-28-97 20:42:34 <mandie> ok, wasn't sure I still had it on my system
05-28-97 20:42:37 <ptackbar> DOS/CPM
05-28-97 20:42:39 <WarpGuru> From the deep dark recesses of my write-only memory. Stuff goes in but never comes back out! ;)
05-28-97 20:42:43 <ptackbar> no nono
05-28-97 20:42:44 * UncleGrim is too young to know the 4th one
05-28-97 20:42:54 <MADlog> !set voice.news For the latest copy of the VOICE Newsletter please go to http://home.ptd.net/~MADodel/voicenws.htm
05-28-97 20:42:56 <VoiceBot> [voice.news] Has been added.
05-28-97 20:42:59 <mandie> lol
05-28-97 20:43:06 <mandie> warpguru: very goooooood !!! hehehe
05-28-97 20:43:15 <WarpGuru> hehehehe
05-28-97 20:43:19 <Projects> ptackbar: siclone
05-28-97 20:43:19 <Stryder> :)
05-28-97 20:43:20 <mandie> mad: are you going to upload to hobbes?
05-28-97 20:43:36 <WarpGuru> You would be surprised at the TRIVIA I know.
05-28-97 20:43:41 <Projects> ptackbar: actually, SiClone
05-28-97 20:43:41 <young> ms-dos, cpm... er, there are 2 versions of cpm that were avail i think.....
05-28-97 20:43:53 <WarpGuru> Only one version of CP/M
05-28-97 20:44:01 <trixer> pcdos
05-28-97 20:44:05 *Stryder* Did you ever decide on whether to get a second CPU ?
05-28-97 20:44:13 * young looks for his copy of big blues
05-28-97 20:44:14 <ptackbar> dos, cpm, Silcone?
05-28-97 20:44:23 <os2hq> MSDOS, PCDOS, CPM, Z80?
05-28-97 20:44:34 <os2hq> or what was that Z-thing?
05-28-97 20:44:38 <WarpGuru> All 4 have to be in the same answer.
05-28-97 20:44:42 <UncleGrim> CP/M, QDOS, M$-DOS, and Siclone(?)
05-28-97 20:44:47 <mandie> os2hq: shhhhh...Mr Marketing!
05-28-97 20:44:51 <Stryder> I thought officers weren't voting os2hq ?
05-28-97 20:44:54 <Stryder> :)
05-28-97 20:44:58 <UncleGrim> heh
05-28-97 20:45:10 <os2hq> Drat, I forgot, sorry!!! Just got back from supper!!
05-28-97 20:45:29 <ptackbar> MSDOS, CPM, SiClone(?), z80
05-28-97 20:45:30 <os2hq> Back on now.
05-28-97 20:45:30 <Projects> SiClone is a site grabber!
05-28-97 20:45:32 <ptackbar> :))))
05-28-97 20:45:37 <ptackbar> projects: oh! LOL!
05-28-97 20:45:53 <UncleGrim> heheh
05-28-97 20:46:15 <Projects> heh
05-28-97 20:46:19 * Projects didn't even see the question, as he was looking for the site grabber for ptackbar...
05-28-97 20:46:29 <WarpGuru> When the IBM PC was introduced in 1981, which four operating systems were available for it?
05-28-97 20:46:46 <trixer> msdos, pcdos, CP/m, AIX
05-28-97 20:46:53 <os2hq> AIX LOL!!!
05-28-97 20:46:54 <UncleGrim> CP/M, QDOS, M$-DOS, and DR-DOS
05-28-97 20:46:57 <UncleGrim> AIX?!
05-28-97 20:46:58 <UncleGrim> heheh
05-28-97 20:46:58 <trixer> =)
05-28-97 20:47:17 <ptackbar> CP/m, DOS, biscuits, gravy
05-28-97 20:47:31 * UncleGrim wonders when linux came about--must've been after the 386, huh?
05-28-97 20:47:41 <os2hq> Grim: yep.
05-28-97 20:47:44 <UncleGrim> ptack, you're making me hungry
05-28-97 20:47:49 <WarpGuru> Sounds like we have a stumper here!
05-28-97 20:47:53 <ptackbar> UncleGrim :)
05-28-97 20:47:57 <UncleGrim> WG, you better believe it
05-28-97 20:48:01 <os2hq> Uno, DOS, Tres, Quattro.
05-28-97 20:48:02 <ptackbar> WarpGuru: ask something I know :)
05-28-97 20:48:04 <UncleGrim> like I said, I'm too young
05-28-97 20:48:16 <UncleGrim> os2hq :-)
05-28-97 20:48:17 <mandie> ptack: hehe
05-28-97 20:48:35 <WarpGuru> Like I tell my (now grown) kids...the questions are only hard if you don't know the answers! :)
05-28-97 20:48:44 <UncleGrim> heheh
05-28-97 20:48:48 <WarpGuru> Shall I tell and come up with another question?
05-28-97 20:48:55 <mandie> warpguru: yep
05-28-97 20:48:57 <ptackbar> Warpguru: yes!
05-28-97 20:48:58 <UncleGrim> CP/M, QDOS, M$-DOS, z86 *shrugs*
05-28-97 20:49:01 <WarpGuru> I have seen three of the four here..
05-28-97 20:49:24 * UncleGrim is guessing wildly, can't you tell? :-)
05-28-97 20:49:25 <WarpGuru> DOS, CP/M, and DR-DOS. One minute to see if anyone can guess the 4th.
05-28-97 20:49:38 <os2hq> How about this one: What was the first version of OS/2 to have HPFS????
05-28-97 20:49:42 <UncleGrim> ack, it was DR-DOS!
05-28-97 20:50:03 <Projects> msdos? pcdos? which dos?
05-28-97 20:50:32 <Abraxas> qdos
05-28-97 20:50:41 <UncleGrim> ROM Basic
05-28-97 20:50:44 <WarpGuru> Time's up!
05-28-97 20:50:52 <ptackbar> Projects: how do I run this?
05-28-97 20:50:59 <UncleGrim> :-(
05-28-97 20:51:04 <Projects> gwbasic :)
05-28-97 20:51:10 <UncleGrim> okay, WG, so what was the answer?
05-28-97 20:51:15 <WarpGuru> The UCB(erkley) P system.
05-28-97 20:51:24 <UncleGrim> umm
05-28-97 20:51:31 <os2hq> WarpGuru: yep, only you would know that!!
05-28-97 20:51:34 <Projects> ptackbar: just type in the url you want to grab *everything* from
05-28-97 20:51:34 <UncleGrim> I never would have guessed that in a thousand years
05-28-97 20:51:46 <os2hq> How about my trivia question: what's the first version of OS/2 to have HPFS in it?
05-28-97 20:51:51 <ptackbar> Projects: I mean how do I *run* it :)
05-28-97 20:51:54 <WarpGuru> It was supposed to be a Psuedo machine and provide for write once run anywhere software.
05-28-97 20:51:56 <mandie> uncle: me either...never even heard of it
05-28-97 20:51:58 <Abraxas> os2hq: 2.0
05-28-97 20:52:06 <UncleGrim> 1.2 (EE)
05-28-97 20:52:13 <Projects> ptackbar: and I mean everything...
05-28-97 20:52:16 <Projects> ptackbar: heh... ok, hang on, I'll send you my .cmd file
05-28-97 20:52:23 <os2hq> Of course, I'm trusting WarpGuru to actually know the answer!!!!
05-28-97 20:52:30 <UncleGrim> heh
05-28-97 20:53:21 <WarpGuru> UncleGrim is correct: 1.2 EE
05-28-97 20:53:30 <UncleGrim> holy #!%%@
05-28-97 20:53:34 <Projects> ptackbar: nevermind the .cmd file... java SiClone <-- that's it
05-28-97 20:53:41 <os2hq> Give 'im the prize!!!!
05-28-97 20:53:49 <ptackbar> projects: hmm..that's what I was doing and I got an error :/
05-28-97 20:53:49 <WarpGuru> The answers to the OS/2 questions are ALL in my Warp DataBook
05-28-97 20:54:00 <Projects> UncleGrim's guess paid off :)
05-28-97 20:54:12 <young> whats (was?) the prize?
05-28-97 20:54:16 <Projects> ptackbar: hmm... works great for me
05-28-97 20:54:23 <mandie> http://www.millennium-technology.com
05-28-97 20:54:23 <ptackbar> Can't find class Siclone or something it requires
05-28-97 20:54:24 <UncleGrim> heheh, actually I had read it was 1.2, just wasn't sure on the EE
05-28-97 20:54:28 <os2hq> WarpGuru: I am hoping your DataBook has answers more like: How do you get an NEC Scriptwriter 660i working on Warp 3???
05-28-97 20:54:43 <UncleGrim> so it was a 50/50 on my part
05-28-97 20:54:44 <WarpGuru> Not yet
05-28-97 20:55:05 <os2hq> Well, my man back in LA had fits today trying to help a customer who had squashed their OKI.
05-28-97 20:55:16 <young> I have a good trivia question :)
05-28-97 20:55:26 <os2hq> They bought an NEC and it barely runs under Windoze3.1, not at all in DOS or Warp &(
05-28-97 20:55:49 <young> Of what charity corperation was bill gates mother a menber of (along with the chairman of IBM, which gave billy a good edge in selling dos)?
05-28-97 20:55:52 <UncleGrim> os2hq, it barely runs under Win3.1 but not at all under DOS??
05-28-97 20:56:01 <os2hq> United Way!!!!
05-28-97 20:56:03 <young> meber of = on board of directors of....
05-28-97 20:56:20 <Projects> M$ isn't charity! :)
05-28-97 20:56:24 <UncleGrim> heh
05-28-97 20:56:27 <os2hq> Grim: that's right, one of those dopey printers apparently that has no driver for WordPerf6 for DOS.
05-28-97 20:56:42 <UncleGrim> oh, a WinPrinter
05-28-97 20:56:44 * young sticks a cigar in os2hq's mouth :)
05-28-97 20:56:49 <UncleGrim> like the new HPs
05-28-97 20:56:55 <os2hq> coughs...
05-28-97 20:56:59 <mandie> ok, did anyone get the trivia?
05-28-97 20:57:11 <WarpGuru> UncleGrim did
05-28-97 20:57:13 <os2hq> No I don't know for sure if it's a WimpPrinter, but it's giving them fits anyway.
05-28-97 20:57:14 <mandie> ok
05-28-97 20:57:26 <os2hq> Grim gets the prize.
05-28-97 20:57:28 <mandie> unclegrim: give me your email and I'll send you your reg code for PRM
05-28-97 20:58:01 <UncleGrim> freiheit@tstonramp.com
05-28-97 20:58:03 <os2hq> Anyway, I'll send them the Warp3 diskettes to reload the OS, and also a copy of OMNI.DRV or whatever.
05-28-97 20:58:29 <os2hq> Or else they can just get a refund on that @$#^@#$% NEC printer!
05-28-97 20:58:35 *Stryder* -CHANOPS- #voice:sounds good to me.
05-28-97 20:58:47 <os2hq> Well, I want to contribute, but I want to have a place to upload materials, etc.
05-28-97 20:59:01 <os2hq> I'm tired of emailing stuff all over the place with no single repository!!!
05-28-97 20:59:10 <os2hq> Press releases one place, web suggestions another,
05-28-97 20:59:21 <os2hq> helpful hints to someone else.
05-28-97 20:59:22 <mandie> unclegrim; email on the way..be sure to register with Innoval
05-28-97 20:59:35 <ptackbar> Projects: the only way I could get it to work was to right click on SiClone.class and do "open as"
05-28-97 20:59:43 <ptackbar> Projects: and the font is reallly small
05-28-97 20:59:45 <os2hq> Thanks everyone for participating in the trivia contest... Good job!
05-28-97 20:59:48 <mandie> Unclegrim: congrats :)
05-28-97 20:59:58 <os2hq> Yudaman, Grim.
05-28-97 20:59:58 <ptackbar> UnceleGrim: is that your first OS/2 email client?
05-28-97 21:00:02 <WarpGuru> Great fun!
05-28-97 21:00:11 <Stryder> So do the three volunteers for the WebPage Committee have any questions ?
05-28-97 21:00:15 <UncleGrim> yes it is
05-28-97 21:00:20 <UncleGrim> I can finally ditch Eudora Light
05-28-97 21:00:20 <Projects> ptackbar: you don't really need to see it though... just paste in the url and ignore it...
05-28-97 21:00:22 <ptackbar> Stryder: don't think so
05-28-97 21:00:30 <ptackbar> Projects: that's what I'm doing :)
05-28-97 21:00:35 <UncleGrim> thanks all
05-28-97 21:00:36 <os2hq> Okay, time for me to bug out. I'll try to find a Web provider and do my thing. I'll email the group when I've got it.
05-28-97 21:00:39 <Stryder> Sorry I screwed up the first round of guesses, I got caught up in the heat of the moment :)
05-28-97 21:00:45 <Projects> ptackbar: also, did you respect case? java SiClone (java siclone or Java siClone won't work)
05-28-97 21:00:53 <WarpGuru> No problem That is part of the FUN!
05-28-97 21:00:55 <os2hq> No prob, Stry, I got in a few licks too.
05-28-97 21:00:57 <UncleGrim> bye os2hq
05-28-97 21:00:59 <ptackbar> Projects: let me see
05-28-97 21:01:02 <UncleGrim> hey MAD
05-28-97 21:01:05 <Stryder> os2hq do you have ptackbar's and unclegrim's email addresses ????
05-28-97 21:01:06 <os2hq> Bye all.
05-28-97 21:01:09 <Stryder> And vice versa ?
05-28-97 21:01:13 <MADodel> UG: you dog you, you won eh?
05-28-97 21:01:16 <Stryder> So you can stay in touch ?
05-28-97 21:01:19 <young> bye hq
05-28-97 21:01:21 <UncleGrim> freiheit@tstonramp.com
05-28-97 21:01:22 <os2hq> No, Stry, please email them to me. I'm as os2headquarters@greenheart.com
05-28-97 21:01:22 <WarpGuru> I'm gonna leave 2.
05-28-97 21:01:30 <UncleGrim> MAD, a-yup
05-28-97 21:01:31 <WarpGuru> See you all Monday.
05-28-97 21:01:37 <UncleGrim> bye WG
05-28-97 21:01:38 <ptackbar> Projects: that was it
05-28-97 21:01:48 <mandie> nite Warpguru & os2hq
05-28-97 21:01:51 <Stryder> ptackbar grab os2hq's email, you too unclegrim so that you can stay in touch.
05-28-97 21:01:57 <Stryder> CYA os2hq
05-28-97 21:02:03 <crazyhay> Had to leave for a while & just returned to see the SciClone reference... what's that? It's also the name of a company whose stock I've sold a bunch of!
05-28-97 21:02:09 <WarpGuru> Web committee: Contact me re getting access to the web site.
05-28-97 21:02:20 <Stryder> LOL crazyhay
05-28-97 21:02:26 <UncleGrim> I got it
05-28-97 21:02:26 <mandie> stryder: can we have email correspondance with the webpage team cc: to me?
05-28-97 21:02:38 <Stryder> Sounds good mandie.
05-28-97 21:02:50 <Projects> crazyhay: it's a java site grabbing util
05-28-97 21:03:08 <Stryder> I will be emailing Blane after this meeting with the news. I doubt he will take it well, but it is not like we have not given him time.
05-28-97 21:03:27 <crazyhay> thanks, projects. My version is symbol SCLN on the NASDAQ .
05-28-97 21:03:27 <MADodel> Stryder: he is in undernet #OS/2
05-28-97 21:03:30 <mandie> Stryder: I'm sure he got the email that I sent out today..that pretty much said it all
05-28-97 21:03:42 <UncleGrim> ptack, what's your e-mail addy?
05-28-97 21:03:43 <Stryder> Is there any other business ? It is getting late.
05-28-97 21:03:49 <mandie> stryder: what I mean is..I think he'll be expecting it
05-28-97 21:03:52 <Stryder> MADodel I will head there now.
05-28-97 21:04:02 <MADodel> mandie: he got his copy of GTU, I tthink he was more then well compensated.
05-28-97 21:04:05 <mandie> stryder: how is cuseeme coming along?
05-28-97 21:04:08 <Projects> has anything at all been done with Blane's pages?
05-28-97 21:04:14 <mandie> Mad: oh, so do I
05-28-97 21:04:17 <UncleGrim> other business--has anyone heard how far along WarpStock is?
05-28-97 21:04:33 <UncleGrim> and what is VOICE going to do for WarpStock?
05-28-97 21:04:40 <MADodel> UG: I just heard that MPerry resigned
05-28-97 21:04:41 <mandie> projects: grabbed a couple of my pages and added the links..but nothing since Monday
05-28-97 21:04:43 <ptackbar> UncleGrim: ptackbar@vnet.net
05-28-97 21:04:48 <mandie> Mad: yes :(
05-28-97 21:04:49 <Projects> crazyhay: np
05-28-97 21:04:55 <ptackbar> UncleGrim: yours?
05-28-97 21:04:57 <Projects> stryder is cuseeme?
05-28-97 21:05:07 <UncleGrim> resigned?
05-28-97 21:05:08 <psarin> hi all!
05-28-97 21:05:11 <Projects> mandie: I haven't checked since monday's meeting
05-28-97 21:05:13 <UncleGrim> ptack, freiheit@tstonramp.com
05-28-97 21:05:15 <UncleGrim> hey psarin
05-28-97 21:05:22 <ptackbar> psarin: your page is the new voice page :)
05-28-97 21:05:24 <mandie> mperry had too many work commitments and didn't have the time :(
05-28-97 21:05:35 <psarin> really...
05-28-97 21:05:51 <Stryder> MADodel Very true. It is actually not looking very good to be perfectly blunt about it :(
05-28-97 21:05:51 <UncleGrim> oh dear
05-28-97 21:05:58 <mandie> projects: I've checked everyday...and this morning there still was no progress
05-28-97 21:06:16 <mandie> stryder: what isn't looking good?...warpstock?
05-28-97 21:06:25 <MADodel> psarin: you'll have to contact Epsilon to get your copy of GTU.
05-28-97 21:06:27 <MADodel> :-)
05-28-97 21:06:28 <UncleGrim> so has anyone talked to SCOUG to see if they still want to do it?
05-28-97 21:06:40 <Projects> mandie: well, psarin's is really a good replacement
05-28-97 21:06:47 <mandie> projects: I agree
05-28-97 21:06:56 <mandie> Uncle: they are doing it
05-28-97 21:07:03 <ptackbar> psarin: the question is, would you rather complete your page or have someone else?
05-28-97 21:07:04 <Stryder> mandie Yes.
05-28-97 21:07:05 <mandie> Warpstock has made alot of progress
05-28-97 21:07:07 <UncleGrim> okay, good--as long as it does go through
05-28-97 21:07:12 <mandie> stryder: oh no..things are moving right along
05-28-97 21:07:23 <mandie> Paul Hethmon has taken on the chair
05-28-97 21:07:37 <psarin> ptackbar: well since i'm going on vacation for a month starting next week, i think someone else completing them would be a better idea :)
05-28-97 21:07:38 <UncleGrim> psarin, actually it's 3 choices--complete it on your own, let someone else do it, or do it with the help of others
05-28-97 21:07:41 <mandie> stryder: he is supposed to be in touch with you about the cuseeme
05-28-97 21:07:51 <UncleGrim> oh, okay
05-28-97 21:07:56 <ptackbar> psarin: ok, just mirrored your page anyway :) I'll fix it up :)
05-28-97 21:08:03 <psarin> so does this mean you (ptackbar & unclegrim) are volunteering? :)
05-28-97 21:08:03 <mandie> it's set for the weekend of Oct 24th
05-28-97 21:08:15 <UncleGrim> psarin, pretty much--and os2hq
05-28-97 21:08:18 <Stryder> I agree that the committee is moving forward, I am just afraid based on what I have heard that they may be the only ones outside of LA there :(
05-28-97 21:08:39 <psarin> i wanted to run another layout by you guys....check out http://www.dialup.rochester.edu/~psarin/voice1 (don't forget the "1") :)
05-28-97 21:08:43 <mandie> stryder: a group from phoenix plan on attending also
05-28-97 21:09:02 <Stryder> As for CUSEEME, two of the original four have never really done *ANYTHING* other than to say I am interested initially. Nothing since, no replies to emails, etc.
05-28-97 21:09:22 <ptackbar> psarin: yeah
05-28-97 21:09:35 <mandie> stryder: four ..being the ppl in europe?
05-28-97 21:10:36 <Stryder> mandie actually there was one from Europe, one from Canada (still involved) and one from the US.
05-28-97 21:11:05 <psarin> comments on the second one?
05-28-97 21:11:22 <mandie> stryder: the WSteam will have their meeting tomorrow night and I will make sure that Paul has your email address
05-28-97 21:11:24 <ptackbar> psarin: I like the first better :)
05-28-97 21:11:29 <psarin> (the links don't work yet, but it would be real easy to take the info from the first one and transfer it)
05-28-97 21:11:30 <Stryder> We /msg OK.
05-28-97 21:11:40 <Stryder> Wow that worked well :)
05-28-97 21:11:42 <Stryder> OK
05-28-97 21:11:44 <ptackbar> my questino is, what needs to be changed on it currently?
05-28-97 21:11:53 <mandie> hehe
05-28-97 21:12:01 <Stryder> I have tried to talk to Epsilon, but no response.
05-28-97 21:12:09 <Freiheit> ack!
05-28-97 21:12:15 <Freiheit> NSN/2 crashed on me (big shock)
05-28-97 21:13:01 <mandie> opio: hello :)
05-28-97 21:13:11 <UncleGrim> it's odd, the button bar takes about 3 times as long to load as the rest of the browser--the whole system hangs for a couple seconds--and sometimes it just locks up
05-28-97 21:13:11 <UncleGrim> hey opio
05-28-97 21:13:13 <Stryder> I am going to call it a night folks. I will see everybody later. It is getting late on the east coast :)
05-28-97 21:13:29 <Opio> Good evening!
05-28-97 21:13:32 <Projects> psarin: to be honest, I like your first page better
05-28-97 21:13:40 <mandie> stryder: g'night...if possible..how about an agenda fro Monday
05-28-97 21:13:45 <mandie> for too :)
05-28-97 21:13:57 <UncleGrim> hmm, maybe getting rid of the Linkup.exe thing will help
05-28-97 21:14:08 <Stryder> mandie Sure thing. I have been very busy, but will make sure i have one out by Saturday for comment.
05-28-97 21:14:10 <ptackbar> psarin: any reason you keep linking to www.abts.net a lot?
05-28-97 21:14:13 <UncleGrim> bye Stryder
05-28-97 21:14:20 <mandie> stryder: thx :)
05-28-97 21:14:21 <Stryder> Take care everybody.
05-28-97 21:14:41 <mandie> Attention All:
05-28-97 21:14:55 <UncleGrim> psarin, what was that 2nd URL for your site?
05-28-97 21:14:59 <mandie> if anyone would like something special at one of our meetings...please feel free to send me your requests
05-28-97 21:15:04 * Projects stands... rigidly
05-28-97 21:15:07 <mandie> lol
05-28-97 21:15:20 * UncleGrim would like chips 'n dip :-)
05-28-97 21:15:24 <Projects> mandie: sure... money, and the time to spend it for me :)
05-28-97 21:15:36 <mandie> If anyone would be interested in writing an article that they would like in our newsletter...please notify Madodel
05-28-97 21:15:44 <psarin> ug: http://www.dialup.rochester.edu/~psarin/voice1 (but it seems as everyone i've asked says that they like the first one better - though i like the second one :) :)
05-28-97 21:15:52 <mandie> Projects: oh, I can find the time to spend if for you :)
05-28-97 21:16:04 <MADodel> !ask voice.news
05-28-97 21:16:10 <VoiceBot> [voice.news] For the latest copy of the VOICE Newsletter please go to http://home.ptd.net/~MADodel/voicenws.htm (MADlog)
05-28-97 21:16:14 * Projects thinks he *has* to write something for the newsletter anyway... even if it's just a current balance :)
05-28-97 21:16:23 <mandie> projects: :)
05-28-97 21:16:31 <psarin> ptackbar: all of the os/2 warp information will come from the unofficial os/2 warp homepage - the webmaster there has agreed to work w/ us on supplying the information...so for now i've just linked it to his page
05-28-97 21:16:51 <Projects> mandie: Ok, send me the money, and I'll send some your way as required to spend for me :)
05-28-97 21:16:57 <mandie> hehe
05-28-97 21:17:08 <mandie> MAD: are you going to u/l to hobbes?
05-28-97 21:17:17 <Projects> sorta like an allowance :)
05-28-97 21:17:25 <mandie> I can check with os2bbs and see if they'll accept also
05-28-97 21:17:55 <psarin> btw, the final version of acrobat for os/2 is out...http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html
05-28-97 21:17:59 <MADodel> mandie: Did you get my email? I'll try hobbes and see if they will create a directory for us.
05-28-97 21:18:07 <Projects> mandie: Pete Norloff's pretty good with stuff like that. I approached him for that programming page, and he was very responsive
05-28-97 21:18:17 <psarin> mandie: did warpguru say anything abotu the mailing list?
05-28-97 21:18:22 <mandie> Mad: yes, there shouldn't be a problem...if you put the proposed directory
05-28-97 21:18:38 <mandie> psarin: just he has a few more things to work out..said maybe in a couple of days
05-28-97 21:18:53 <UncleGrim> psarin, actually I like the 2nd page better
05-28-97 21:19:04 * ptackbar is gone! (voice webpage :)) [Recording]
05-28-97 21:19:07 <mandie> it will tell in the description what it is and they shouldn't have a problem
05-28-97 21:19:09 <UncleGrim> except that the images at the bottom aren't loading
05-28-97 21:19:16 <psarin> ug: i think you and i are outvoted by the others :)
05-28-97 21:19:40 <UncleGrim> heh
05-28-97 21:19:43 <Projects> UncleGrim: aren't the two coloured tables different sizes for you?
05-28-97 21:19:49 <UncleGrim> wouldn't surprise me a bit
05-28-97 21:19:54 <mandie> did anyone take a look at APCUG?
05-28-97 21:20:05 <UncleGrim> projects, yes, and actually there are 3
05-28-97 21:20:10 <ptackbar> psarin: did you use some sort of HTML builder to make this page?
05-28-97 21:20:16 <UncleGrim> green and pink on the left and blue on the right
05-28-97 21:20:20 <psarin> projects: they're supposed to be, but that can be changed, and the colors can too, i was just experimenting
05-28-97 21:20:25 <UncleGrim> but that could be easily touched up
05-28-97 21:20:43 <Projects> psarin: nods
05-28-97 21:20:44 <UncleGrim> I'm just saying I like the setup/format of the 2nd page better
05-28-97 21:20:44 <mandie> WebPage team...question
05-28-97 21:20:57 <mandie> How soon can you have a full blown web page done?
05-28-97 21:21:03 <ptackbar> mandie: tonight
05-28-97 21:21:08 <psarin> ptackbar: sort of,,,i took the html for the unofficial os/2 warp page, imported into starwriter, edited text, saved as html, edited html to make different tables and such,,,,
05-28-97 21:21:12 <Projects> hehehehe
05-28-97 21:21:15 <Egon> yep that is completely possible
05-28-97 21:21:18 <mandie> ptackbar: kewl!!!!!!!!!!!! this is what we needed :)
05-28-97 21:21:21 * ptackbar is a straight text man...
05-28-97 21:21:29 <ptackbar> mandie: but!
05-28-97 21:21:39 <mandie> how did I know there would be a but!
05-28-97 21:21:43 <ptackbar> I'm just talking about filling/enhancing psarin's pages
05-28-97 21:21:46 * Projects is an HTML Studio man only anymore
05-28-97 21:21:54 <mandie> projects: same here :)
05-28-97 21:21:58 * ptackbar 's real job is webmaster :)))))))
05-28-97 21:22:05 <Projects> ptackbar: I don't think anyone has a problem with that
05-28-97 21:22:08 <ptackbar> mandie: are you going to be around in about 2-3 hours?
05-28-97 21:22:16 <UncleGrim> yep, could have a fully functional web site done tonight just by modifying the tables and colors and making the links work
05-28-97 21:22:22 <young> Projects Mandie: :-)
05-28-97 21:22:33 <mandie> ptackbar: yes,..it's 9:30 and I'll be up til about 12-12:30
05-28-97 21:22:39 * ptackbar is revamping the way that psarin did it to make it cleaner, and neater to mess with (from my position)
05-28-97 21:22:40 <mandie> ptack: I'll be in irc
05-28-97 21:22:50 <ptackbar> mandie: good...I'll talk to you in #os/2 and give you a good update :))
05-28-97 21:23:00 <mandie> ptack: thanks sooo much :)
05-28-97 21:23:07 <mandie> unclegrim: you too!!!!
05-28-97 21:23:14 * mandie will sleep tonight :)
05-28-97 21:23:27 <psarin> which page are you talking about now? :) the first or second?
05-28-97 21:23:27 <Projects> finally... some progress :)
05-28-97 21:23:30 <ptackbar> mandie: :))))))
05-28-97 21:23:35 <mandie> projects: exactly!
05-28-97 21:23:38 <psarin> and is ptackbar now officially the webmaster?
05-28-97 21:23:42 * UncleGrim sneezes
05-28-97 21:23:49 <mandie> good question
05-28-97 21:23:52 <UncleGrim> argh, allergies
05-28-97 21:24:07 <mandie> /dcc send unclegrim box_of_puffs.unscented
05-28-97 21:24:12 <Projects> eww... what's this green shit on the inside of my monitor?
05-28-97 21:24:21 <UncleGrim> psarin, seems like it--and I'll help him as needed, making suggestions, tweaking tags, etc
05-28-97 21:24:25 <mandie> projects: do you have birds?
05-28-97 21:24:25 <UncleGrim> mandie, thanks
05-28-97 21:24:38 <mandie> hold on
05-28-97 21:24:42 * Projects really wonders about scented tissue... what's the point? You can't smell it when you need them...
05-28-97 21:24:49 <mandie> ptackbar: are you going to have the time to devote to the position?
05-28-97 21:24:56 <Projects> mandie: yup... two, but they're on the outside of my monitor :)
05-28-97 21:25:01 <mandie> lol
05-28-97 21:25:07 <mandie> fulltime that is
05-28-97 21:25:08 <UncleGrim> but since he gets paid to be a webmaster, I'd say having the site based on his server until it goes official would be best
05-28-97 21:25:16 * Projects didn't think mandie could hear them that well...
05-28-97 21:25:16 <crazyhay> I think Projects' monitor's just been infected by the Pod People
05-28-97 21:25:33 <Projects> heh...
05-28-97 21:25:36 <mandie> projects: Mothers hear all :)
05-28-97 21:25:40 <mandie> crazyhay: hehehe
05-28-97 21:25:42 <ptackbar> mandie: should
05-28-97 21:25:42 <UncleGrim> heh, not my mother
05-28-97 21:25:57 * Projects is waiting for UncleGrim to wipe the mess away from his side :)
05-28-97 21:26:00 <UncleGrim> deaf as a rock until you say something you don't want her to hear
05-28-97 21:26:13 <mandie> ptackbar: ok, I thought you said that you were pretty busy now that you have the #os/2 page also..but it great by me if you can do it!!! :)
05-28-97 21:26:19 <mandie> ptackbar: welcome aboard
05-28-97 21:26:19 <UncleGrim> projects, I didn't sneez on the monitor, jeeez
05-28-97 21:26:23 * UncleGrim rolls his eyes <(*)> <(*)>
05-28-97 21:26:28 <psarin> so ptackbar, by when do you think we can have a site up and running?
05-28-97 21:26:36 <Projects> UncleGrim: goes hand in hand with the kids' selective hearing
05-28-97 21:26:39 <mandie> ptackbar: you'll need to schedule meetings with your committee..also egon is willing to help
05-28-97 21:26:45 <Projects> UncleGrim: :)
05-28-97 21:27:01 <mandie> oh gross!!
05-28-97 21:27:06 <ptackbar> tonight I hope
05-28-97 21:27:09 <crazyhay> Nitol, as they say in the medicine ad
05-28-97 21:27:14 <ptackbar> do I have to have a committee? :)
05-28-97 21:27:16 <mandie> nytol :)
05-28-97 21:27:19 <UncleGrim> bye Judy
05-28-97 21:27:28 <mandie> ptackbar: plz..we've gone that route..didn't work :)
05-28-97 21:27:39 <mandie> uncle...no no..not me ;)
05-28-97 21:27:41 <UncleGrim> ptack, you don't *have* to, but it would be nice to have input from others, don't you think?
05-28-97 21:27:54 <UncleGrim> not you?
05-28-97 21:27:56 * mandie thinks that ptackbar was kidding ;)
05-28-97 21:28:08 <mandie> uncle: nope..corrected his spelling of nytol
05-28-97 21:28:15 <UncleGrim> oh, okay
05-28-97 21:28:17 <UncleGrim> :-)
05-28-97 21:28:29 <UncleGrim> just so used to you saying it
05-28-97 21:28:32 <mandie> hehe
05-28-97 21:28:37 * Projects can be had for help if it's *really* needed, but his time's at a premium
05-28-97 21:28:43 <mandie> I believe I have a copyright on it :)
05-28-97 21:28:44 <young> gnight all :)
05-28-97 21:28:57 <UncleGrim> night young
05-28-97 21:29:04 <Projects> 'night young
05-28-97 21:29:07 <ptackbar> UncleGrim: yes :) it would
05-28-97 21:29:09 <UncleGrim> mandie, ahh, so when I say it I have to put a (c) mandie, 1997 after it?
05-28-97 21:29:18 <mandie> uncle: yeppers :)
05-28-97 21:29:23 <psarin> okay, sorry to bring it up one more time :) but i really think the second page is much easier to navigate, not to mention will take less time to load :)
05-28-97 21:29:33 <mandie> projects: have you approached young to be a guest?
05-28-97 21:29:33 <Projects> Uncle: no, that's a (c)Goddess
05-28-97 21:29:42 * UncleGrim wishes we had Communicator/2, it'd make working on this page together much easier
05-28-97 21:29:44 <Projects> mandie: yup
05-28-97 21:29:53 <mandie> projects: and yup?
05-28-97 21:30:23 <Projects> Well, I'll prolly have to postpone my vacation for a few days, but ok
05-28-97 21:30:23 <Projects> :) Anyhow, please give me some firm times/dates as they become
05-28-97 21:30:23 <Projects> availbile. And remember.... I am 6 or so hours ahead of you, and
05-28-97 21:30:23 <Projects> will probably be catching a 7am flight the next day. ie. dont have
05-28-97 21:30:24 <Projects> it at 10PM(your time). I will probably be up till 1 or so in the
05-28-97 21:30:26 <Projects> morning regardless
05-28-97 21:30:30 <mandie> psarin: you've laid the groundwork..now we'll see what they come up with...when they have it completed ..they can let us know and the board will view it
05-28-97 21:30:53 <mandie> projects: ok
05-28-97 21:30:58 <psarin> mandie: the only problem is that now i don't like the groundwork i laid :)
05-28-97 21:31:20 <mandie> psarin: but everyone else does :)
05-28-97 21:31:28 <mandie> projects: June 4?
05-28-97 21:31:37 <UncleGrim> I still agree with psarin--the first page has just a mass jumble of links in the text and frames (well, table frames I guess) that won't line up no matter how hard you try (as in the HRs)
05-28-97 21:31:37 <Projects> mandie: I think that was his response for the 1st wed. in june
05-28-97 21:31:37 <Projects> yup
05-28-97 21:32:02 <mandie> projects: well, you can ask him what would be a good date for him and we'll go with that
05-28-97 21:32:10 <psarin> thanks UG :) never thought i'd be criticising my own page :)
05-28-97 21:32:14 <UncleGrim> it would be easier I think to manage the 2nd page's table and keep it in line
05-28-97 21:32:18 <Projects> mandie: 'kay... doing so now (email)
05-28-97 21:32:26 <mandie> projects: thx ;)
05-28-97 21:32:36 <psarin> and it's more informative.... (the second one)
05-28-97 21:32:48 <mandie> projects: any but the 18th so far
05-28-97 21:32:59 <psarin> anyway, i just hope the WPC committee keeps the second page in mind as they finalize the VOICE page.....
05-28-97 21:33:02 <mandie> I'd like to get felix cruz as a guest also..he said just let him know
05-28-97 21:33:16 <psarin> warpguru: i hope you're ont he WPC so you can sway their thinking :)
05-28-97 21:33:32 <mandie> psarin: ah, he's not even here :)
05-28-97 21:33:46 <mandie> psarin: but os2hq is also on the committee
05-28-97 21:33:53 <psarin> sorry, i meant uncle grim :)
05-28-97 21:34:11 <Projects> mandie: 'kay, message away
05-28-97 21:34:15 <mandie> well, I think we should call it a night so these guys can get to work :)
05-28-97 21:34:42 * Projects likes the layout of the second page, but not crazy about the coloured tables...
05-28-97 21:34:54 <UncleGrim> psarin, I am now it seems
05-28-97 21:34:58 <mandie> uncle, ptack...please cc: me with any email correspondance pertaining to the webpages
05-28-97 21:35:10 <UncleGrim> made an innocent comment about HTML and got on the committee
05-28-97 21:35:25 <UncleGrim> mandie, will do
05-28-97 21:35:25 <psarin> projects: so we'll take out the colored tables :) cool, now we have 3 votes for and 3 votes against :)
05-28-97 21:35:25 <Projects> hehehe... teach you to open your mouth :)
05-28-97 21:35:32 <UncleGrim> projects, lol
05-28-97 21:35:42 <UncleGrim> I don't mind--I like doing HTML
05-28-97 21:35:57 <Projects> psarin: actually, at this point, anything's better than nothing... so I don't care :)
05-28-97 21:36:02 <ptackbar> mandie: awake?
05-28-97 21:36:05 <mandie> uncle, ptack...in order to send email to all officers....just send email to plazenby@kitimat.sno.net with VOICE in the subject field
05-28-97 21:36:14 <psarin> ptackbar is there a web address where we can see the progress? i'm going to be working on a paper, but i'd like to check it out every once in a while :)
05-28-97 21:36:15 <mandie> ptackbar: of course :)
05-28-97 21:36:21 * Projects likes doing html too... but time... no time...
05-28-97 21:36:34 <ptackbar> mandie: must we have OS/2 Warp links on the main page right away?
05-28-97 21:36:42 <ptackbar> or can we have just VOICE info to start?
05-28-97 21:36:56 <mandie> ptackbar: atleast put a link to ibm and the warp homepage
05-28-97 21:37:03 <ptackbar> mandie: no problem
05-28-97 21:37:11 <mandie> ptackbar: the rest can follow
05-28-97 21:37:13 <Projects> ptackbar: put it this way... all links you include should actually *work* :)
05-28-97 21:37:13 <psarin> ptackbar: i think we should - we'll have that info soon enough from the webmaster of the unofficial os/2 warp homepage
05-28-97 21:37:15 <UncleGrim> ptack, I think just VOICE info and the links to IBM to start
05-28-97 21:37:53 <UncleGrim> no need to put the URLs of VOICE members or "other great links!!" on the main page
05-28-97 21:37:55 <psarin> projects: but he can put in stuff and say that the link is coming soon (i.e. don't put in the A HREF just yet but put the description)
05-28-97 21:38:22 <Projects> psarin: or leave it out until the link is confirmed...
05-28-97 21:38:57 <Projects> psarin: but then, if there's no A HREF, it won't be too annoying
05-28-97 21:38:58 <ptackbar> ok
05-28-97 21:39:02 <ptackbar> going well so far :)
05-28-97 21:39:04 <psarin> projects: right, but i'm saying we should put the description there, w/o the link...just as a reminder/placeholder...
05-28-97 21:39:04 <mandie> madodel: can you send them the newsletters plz
05-28-97 21:39:20 <mandie> ptackbar: if you need something..please just let us know
05-28-97 21:39:34 <psarin> ptack: any url for progress?
05-28-97 21:39:34 <mandie> ptackbar: I have some announcements on my page
05-28-97 21:39:35 <MADodel> !ask voice.news
05-28-97 21:39:37 <Projects> psarin: yup... I just hate when my mouse passes over a link, but the link doesn't do anything other than 404
05-28-97 21:39:42 <VoiceBot> [voice.news] For the latest copy of the VOICE Newsletter please go to http://home.ptd.net/~MADodel/voicenws.htm (MADlog)
05-28-97 21:39:55 <mandie> http://oeonline.com/~mandie1/voice.html
05-28-97 21:40:00 <MADodel> mandie send who? I was in another window.
05-28-97 21:40:02 <mandie> mad: :)
05-28-97 21:40:19 <mandie> Mad: ptackbar..so he can put it up on the page
05-28-97 21:40:33 <mandie> and make the .inf available for d/l
05-28-97 21:40:40 <Projects> both html and .inf
05-28-97 21:40:44 <mandie> right
05-28-97 21:40:57 <Projects> heh... the Goddess and I think similarly :)
05-28-97 21:41:06 <Projects> does that make me a god?
05-28-97 21:41:23 <mandie> lol...he got him! :)
05-28-97 21:41:34 <MADodel> ptackbar: go to http://home.ptd.net/~MADodel/voicenws.htm and d/l the newsletter.
05-28-97 21:41:45 <mandie> projects: *HE* gotcha :)
05-28-97 21:41:50 <MADodel> both versions are there
05-28-97 21:41:52 <UncleGrim> wb projects
05-28-97 21:41:59 <UncleGrim> who's *HE*?
05-28-97 21:42:05 <Projects> dratted alpha clients... :)
05-28-97 21:42:11 <mandie> HE=God :)
05-28-97 21:42:23 <Projects> HE? You don't know who HE is?
05-28-97 21:42:29 <mandie> lol
05-28-97 21:42:32 <UncleGrim> oh, right
05-28-97 21:42:36 <ptackbar> ?>
05-28-97 21:42:36 * UncleGrim shrugs
05-28-97 21:42:51 <Projects> heh
05-28-97 21:42:58 <mandie> ptack: do we have a url for this page?
05-28-97 21:43:05 <MADodel> ptackbar: or just link to my page
05-28-97 21:43:11 * Projects hopes this latest build works better...
05-28-97 21:43:21 <ptackbar> mandie: yeah, as soon as I upload it :) it will be http://users.vnet.net/jamawkin/voice
05-28-97 21:43:30 <ptackbar> MADodel: I'll link there :)
05-28-97 21:43:35 <mandie> mad: he may as well get everything in place so it will all go onto davids server
05-28-97 21:43:43 <ptackbar> ooooook
05-28-97 21:43:54 <mandie> ptackbar: you'll need the files to put on our os2voice.org server
05-28-97 21:44:07 <MADodel> mandie: your such a mother. :-)
05-28-97 21:44:23 <mandie> Mad: I've been called that more than once :)
05-28-97 21:44:25 <MADodel> Alright I'll mail him the whole thing
05-28-97 21:44:30 <MADodel> HeHeHeHe :-)
05-28-97 21:44:38 <mandie> :)
05-28-97 21:44:58 <Projects> MAD: great job on the newsletter btw
05-28-97 21:45:05 <mandie> yes, very nice
05-28-97 21:45:13 * Projects thinks he already said that though...
05-28-97 21:45:19 <MADodel> thanks projects. It's quite a learning experience.
05-28-97 21:45:49 <mandie> Mad: well, you picked it up very quickly and did an excellent job!
05-28-97 21:46:00 * Projects agrees
05-28-97 21:46:20 <mandie> just like the new webpage team...picked the ball up and ran with it ;)
05-28-97 21:46:30 <ptackbar> ok :)
05-28-97 21:46:34 <ptackbar> umm...
05-28-97 21:46:35 <ptackbar> ok
05-28-97 21:46:36 <ptackbar> ok :)
05-28-97 21:46:39 <ptackbar> hehehe
05-28-97 21:46:43 <UncleGrim> is it up?
05-28-97 21:47:00 <ptackbar> don't talk to me for about 1 hour and I'll have everything done that I know to do and then you guys tell me what else to add, ok?
05-28-97 21:47:04 <ptackbar> :)
05-28-97 21:47:11 <mandie> we just got email from epsilon
05-28-97 21:47:16 <UncleGrim> umm, okay
05-28-97 21:47:21 <ptackbar> cool :)
05-28-97 21:47:28 * ptackbar is gone! (webpage!!!!!!!!!! ) [Recording]
05-28-97 21:47:30 <Projects> we did?
05-28-97 21:47:36 <mandie> yep
05-28-97 21:47:36 <UncleGrim> ptack, in that case I'll go to undernet #os/2, okay?
05-28-97 21:48:02 <mandie> sorry, it wasn't from him
05-28-97 21:48:15 <mandie> lparsons
05-28-97 21:48:16 <Projects> mandie: what's it say? We here didn't get anything...
05-28-97 21:48:16 <Projects> heh
05-28-97 21:48:20 <mandie> what nick is lparsons?
05-28-97 21:48:22 <ptackbar> UncleGrim OK
05-28-97 21:48:32 <ptackbar> am I going to have access to logs of this stuff?
05-28-97 21:48:36 <ptackbar> yes, I am ok :)
05-28-97 21:48:39 <ptackbar> stupid question :)
05-28-97 21:48:40 <mandie> ptack: of course
05-28-97 21:48:41 <psarin> mandie: that mail was from me :)
05-28-97 21:48:55 <UncleGrim> all right, going to undernet #os/2 now
05-28-97 21:49:04 <mandie> psarin: I see that now..I know lparsons was on the WC..but what's his nick?
05-28-97 21:49:08 <UncleGrim> can't wait to see the page and start making suggestions
05-28-97 21:49:24 <Projects> egon?
05-28-97 21:49:29 <psarin> have no idea :)
05-28-97 21:49:35 <Egon> YES!!!!!!!
05-28-97 21:49:43 <mandie> egon: that's you?
05-28-97 21:49:54 <UncleGrim> I thought egon was j hall or something
05-28-97 21:49:59 <psarin> okay ,i'm going to work on my paper, somebody /msg me when you need something from me ( i get a beep :))
05-28-97 21:50:01 <Egon> that's me
05-28-97 21:50:04 <ptackbar> egon is j hall
05-28-97 21:50:06 <mandie> egon!!1 well speak up
05-28-97 21:50:14 <UncleGrim> then who's lparsons?
05-28-97 21:50:15 <mandie> egon is also on the Web Committee
05-28-97 21:50:23 <Projects> egon is j. hall (according to my /whois)
05-28-97 21:50:25 <Egon> UP
05-28-97 21:50:28 <mandie> oh, now I'm totally confused :(
05-28-97 21:50:28 <psarin> oh, and my 'net connection may drop after 15 min of idle time :)
05-28-97 21:50:39 <ptackbar> do we already have os2voice.org up?
05-28-97 21:50:49 <mandie> ptack: yes
05-28-97 21:50:49 <psarin> ptack yes
05-28-97 21:50:51 <ptackbar> ok
05-28-97 21:50:54 <ptackbar> back to hTML
05-28-97 21:50:55 <ptackbar> :)
05-28-97 21:51:02 <Egon> sorry I am watching the bulls game so I am alittle preoccupied...but I am loging
05-28-97 21:51:04 <mandie> ptackbar: as David said...contact him for access setup
05-28-97 21:51:21 <mandie> dboth@ibm.net
05-28-97 21:52:07 <mandie> madodel: when you send out the log..could you send the email address of all of the officers and now the new webpage committee ppl
05-28-97 21:52:08 <UncleGrim> what's this about scanner and irc.isonline.com being dropped from webbnet?
05-28-97 21:52:27 <mandie> unclegrim: yes..there was some conflict
05-28-97 21:52:35 <Projects> hmm... who is Mark Overholser and why am I getting email address changes from him?
05-28-97 21:52:55 <mandie> projects: someone on the mailing list?
05-28-97 21:53:11 <Projects> mandie: don't think so...
05-28-97 21:53:22 <MADodel> mandie sure, who are the wpc besides ptackbar and ug?
05-28-97 21:53:40 <mandie> egon and lparsons :)
05-28-97 21:53:46 <Projects> mandie: nope... none of the cc: names are familiar at all
05-28-97 21:54:05 <UncleGrim> brb
05-28-97 21:54:13 <mandie> jnielsen@aros.net
05-28-97 21:54:13 <mandie> egonj@ibm.net
05-28-97 21:54:13 <mandie> lparsons@asu.edu
05-28-97 21:54:19 <MADodel> mandie: do you have there email addresses, I have ptackbars. :-)
05-28-97 21:54:36 <Projects> MarkX D Overholser
05-28-97 21:54:43 <Projects> intel? Hmm...
05-28-97 21:54:47 <mandie> projects: no idea
05-28-97 21:55:01 <psarin> projects: he's not on my mailing list
05-28-97 21:55:06 <Projects> mandie: me neither... prolly something I signed up for sometime...
05-28-97 21:55:32 <mandie> psarin: there are a few Teamos2 ppl that I've forwarded the mailing list requests to david
05-28-97 21:56:11 <Projects> anyone heard from/seen tandie? I keep getting messages to him bounced back...
05-28-97 21:56:25 <mandie> projects: are you using his new email address?
05-28-97 21:56:47 <psarin> mandie: if you still have them, can you forward to me? i'm not sure what david will be doing w/ them..
05-28-97 21:56:52 <Projects> mandie: using tandie@bellatlantic.net
05-28-97 21:56:53 <mandie> tandie@bellatlantic.net
05-28-97 21:57:02 <mandie> psarin: sure iwll
05-28-97 21:57:09 <Projects> yup, that's the one
05-28-97 21:57:21 <mandie> projects: did he ever send his membership application?
05-28-97 21:57:40 <Projects> mandie: but it's only email with attachments that bounces... I've been trying to get a blank app to him...
05-28-97 21:57:52 <psarin> how do i mark myself as away? my client says "you are no longer marked as being away" when i try /away
05-28-97 21:58:04 <Projects> psarin: try /gone
05-28-97 21:58:07 <mandie> projects: all he has to do is go to my page and d/l the app
05-28-97 21:58:19 <MADodel> psarin: type /away something
05-28-97 21:58:25 <Projects> mandie: yup... next time anyone sees him...
05-28-97 21:58:27 <mandie> psarin: type /away msg
05-28-97 21:59:08 <mandie> projects: I sent him one when I sent out the congrats for the web page contest and didn't get a bounced msg
05-28-97 21:59:11 <Projects> whoops... /gone is specific to my script :)
05-28-97 21:59:13 <mandie> projects: I'll dcc it to him when I see him in irc
05-28-97 21:59:24 <Projects> mandie: 'kay, thanks
05-28-97 21:59:51 <mandie> I am sooo happy that we finally have some ppl in place :)
05-28-97 21:59:55 <Projects> who keeps the records of stuff contributed to voice?
05-28-97 22:00:11 <mandie> projects: psarin/secretary should have a list :)
05-28-97 22:00:17 <mandie> projects: but I do have one also ;)
05-28-97 22:00:25 <Projects> psarin?
05-28-97 22:00:35 <Projects> mandie: do you have maxmars's MaxBase on it?
05-28-97 22:00:35 <MADodel> Projects: I add the givers to the newsletter sponsor page as well.
05-28-97 22:00:51 <mandie> projects: yes, I have his name and email
05-28-97 22:00:59 <Projects> mad: you have Panacea Software and MaxBase on it?
05-28-97 22:01:17 <MADodel> Projects: no, what is there URL or email?
05-28-97 22:01:21 <Projects> mandie: 'kay... I got the reg already, and the app is quite nice IMHO
05-28-97 22:01:46 <mandie> projects: we haven't used the panacea as yet..that's why I didn't mention it..but I did forget about MaxMail
05-28-97 22:01:49 <MADodel> their even
05-28-97 22:01:52 <mandie> projects: and now MaxBase
05-28-97 22:01:59 <Projects> Mad: Panacea (donated a copy of HTML Studio) is www.program.com/panacea lemme grab maxbase
05-28-97 22:02:08 <Projects> mandie: hehehehe
05-28-97 22:02:25 <mandie> projects: you're using maxbase?
05-28-97 22:02:44 <Projects> The web page for maxbase can be found at:
05-28-97 22:02:44 <Projects> *************************************************
05-28-97 22:02:44 <Projects> http://www.bmtmicro.com/catalog/mb-web
05-28-97 22:02:45 <Projects> (BMT-Micro in USA, with secure online order form)
05-28-97 22:02:45 <Projects> *************************************************
05-28-97 22:02:45 <Projects> *************************************************
05-28-97 22:02:46 <Projects> http://www.ososoft.com/RXDBASE.HTM
05-28-97 22:02:48 <Projects> (OsoSoft in Italy, with plain online order form)
05-28-97 22:02:51 <Projects> *************************************************
05-28-97 22:02:52 <Projects> mandie: have been ever since we got started
05-28-97 22:03:13 <mandie> projects: wow, I messed with it and have a hell of a time figuring it out :(
05-28-97 22:03:33 <Projects> maxmars@pianeta.it
05-28-97 22:03:51 <MADodel> Projects: they are italian? That's cool
05-28-97 22:04:03 <Projects> mandie: it's been running just fine for me since day 1 (well, let's not count the databases that I mucked up myself :>)
05-28-97 22:04:17 <mandie> projects: guess I just don't understand it
05-28-97 22:04:23 <mandie> ptack: are you here?
05-28-97 22:04:28 <Projects> MAD: I think it's just maxmars (one person)
05-28-97 22:04:30 <mandie> psarin: are you here?
05-28-97 22:04:45 <Projects> mandie: do you have it installed?
05-28-97 22:04:52 <mandie> projects: yes
05-28-97 22:05:12 <mandie> projects: some evening lets come in here and you can help me get going with it..if you would
05-28-97 22:05:13 <Projects> mandie: let's test her out then... I'm gonna put up the Voice database...
05-28-97 22:05:27 <mandie> projects: I don't really understand it ???
05-28-97 22:05:33 <psarin> now i am :) msg me if you need something....i do have a list of who contributed what...
05-28-97 22:05:47 <Projects> mandie: 'kay... sometime when we have a bit of extra time then
05-28-97 22:05:51 <psarin> but that was what mandie e-mailed me :)
05-28-97 22:05:54 <mandie> psarin: also..the web committee needs the interpreters email addresses
05-28-97 22:06:03 <mandie> projects: great..just say the word ;)
05-28-97 22:06:07 <Projects> psarin: the log will show the maxbase information
05-28-97 22:06:15 <psarin> i'll e-mail to ptack .... what's his e-mail?
05-28-97 22:06:20 <Projects> mandie: will do... just trying to figure out how to share it now
05-28-97 22:06:32 <mandie> projects :)
05-28-97 22:06:48 <psarin> projects: i like maxbase's integration but i don't like the way it works - i.e. the menuing system...
05-28-97 22:07:20 <Projects> psarin: the closing of one window to open another you mean? that's a downfall, but all in all, it's a great little app
05-28-97 22:07:47 <Projects> hmm... it's asking me for port... what port?
05-28-97 22:10:09 <psarin> what is ptack's e-mail?
05-28-97 22:10:25 <mandie> psarin: 1 sec
05-28-97 22:10:40 <mandie> ptackbar@vnet.net
05-28-97 22:10:51 <mandie> went to his homepage to find it ;)
05-28-97 22:11:08 <mandie> we need to update our email addresses
05-28-97 22:12:17 <psarin> anybody else want the list of tranlators?
05-28-97 22:13:06 <psarin> 39 people on the mailing list so far :)
05-28-97 22:14:08 <psarin> well i'm away again, msg me if you need something
05-28-97 22:14:29 <mandie> psarin: ok :)
05-28-97 22:16:11 <UncleGrim> ugh, that log is long and gets rather boring to read after a while
05-28-97 22:16:54 <mandie> uncle: it was very nice when psarin had the time to summarize it and just put up for d/l for those that wanted it
05-28-97 22:17:12 <UncleGrim> okay, gotta go to the store and then get dinner
05-28-97 22:17:17 <UncleGrim> ???
05-28-97 22:17:19 <mandie> uncle: thx sooo much
05-28-97 22:17:38 <UncleGrim> I'll check in with ptack when I get back and see what I can do for the page
05-28-97 22:17:47 * UncleGrim grabs an edge of his black velvet robe with one bony hand, his gleaming scythe clutched in the other.
05-28-97 22:17:47 <mandie> uncle: ok :)
05-28-97 22:17:56 * UncleGrim disappears in a flurry of black cloth and a cloud of dust (bone fragments?)
05-28-97 22:19:52 <Projects> what's a port for listening to specify?
05-28-97 22:20:16 <mandie> let me see..I think it tells in the docs
05-28-97 22:20:33 <Projects> mandie: yeah, but it doesn't tell what port to use :)
05-28-97 22:20:51 <mandie> hmm
05-28-97 22:21:08 * Projects would assume something like 119 (but that's news)...
05-28-97 22:24:36 <mandie> projects: when you installed MaxBase..was it a clean install?
05-28-97 22:25:18 <Projects> mandie: yup
05-28-97 22:25:22 <mandie> hmmm
05-28-97 22:25:26 <mandie> I had problems
05-28-97 22:25:34 <Projects> mandie: try it now for accessing a remote (got it finally :))
05-28-97 22:26:02 <mandie> projects: it wouldn't identify my drive that os2 was on...had to put d: at the end of the path statment
05-28-97 22:26:06 <Projects> mandie: I didn't have any problems at all, with any of the versions I tried
05-28-97 22:26:38 <Projects> btw, port is unneeded... I'm listening on port 6789 by default
05-28-97 22:27:02 <mandie> see I don't understand this at all
05-28-97 22:27:20 <mandie> projects: tell me exactly what this is supposed to do..I thought I could setup a database on my webserver
05-28-97 22:27:34 <Projects> mandie: dble click the 'access a remote database' and use plazenby@kitimat-07.yellowhead16.net as the host
05-28-97 22:27:53 <Projects> mandie: you can afaik... just like I'm trying to get you to share now :)
05-28-97 22:28:14 <MADodel> OK I'm gonna say nighty night. I'll send out the log tomorrow.
05-28-97 22:28:22 <Projects> cya Mad
05-28-97 22:28:28 Connection Closed [22:28]