<five9guy> | tadda
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<Longstaff> | good shot five9guy
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<five9guy> | hello there everyone
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<five9guy> | made and in one peice to
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<five9guy> | can someone ping me please
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<Longstaff> | it's a little early yet.....not scheduled to get undrway for another 15 minutes
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<Longstaff> | five9guy: instantaneous
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<five9guy> | kewl
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<five9guy> | at least I am not lagging
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<five9guy> | well whaile we are waiting I am going to go and get a drink and get some smokes. I am down to 2
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<five9guy> | brb
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<Longstaff> | good time.....keep the line open :)
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<five9guy> | I think in the mean time inbetween time I am going to go ahead and keep working on my page
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<five9guy> | got any suggestions for it
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<Longstaff> | go for it.....warp can multitask, so you can keep gtirc running while you hack - no suggestions offhand
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<five9guy> | I know I can do multiple things while on here
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<five9guy> | that is one of the things I love about it
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<Joc_> | that is great, I finally remembered to connect at the right time and on the right day, that is so tough to do!
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<five9guy> | lol
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<Sector> | Whats so tough about itù
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<Longstaff> | Joc_ - i know!
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<Joc_> | sector, there are many more hours when there no meeting...
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<Sector> | True, you just need to check the VOICE website where it tells you when and where
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<Joc_> | sector, usually I either have a meeting, or remember about it the next day, or remember it way too early.
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<Sector> | Sounds like you need a reminder
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<Joc_> | Sector, I need a brain... :)
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* | Sector gives Joc_ Longstaffs brain
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<Joc_> | mmmh, is it a good one? :)
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<Joc_> | but a reminder might be a good idea, just I need to remember to set it...
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<Longstaff> | a secretary might be a good idea :)
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* | Sector volunteers Longstaff to be Joc_'s secretary
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<Longstaff> | oh gawd :)
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<trouvere> | Hello, all
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<five9guy> | LOL
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<Longstaff> | hiya trouvere
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<Joc_> | Sector seems to be a good leader, he/she like to volunteer peoples :)
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<Sector> | It's a dirty job but someones got to do it
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<Joc_> | lol
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<madodel> | Well it's after 8PM. Longstaff want to start things off, since no one else from the BoD is here?
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<Joc_> | now, I don't want to take anybody's job, but it's 6 past eight! (I would hate to have made all those effort for nothing!)
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<madodel> | Or shall we give them a few more minutes?
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* | Longstaff rises
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* | Sector doesn't have any time to give
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<Longstaff> | the general meeting is now underway officially......are there any items for the agenda?
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<madodel0> | But Andrew you don't actually ever seem to do anything
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<Sector> | Who said you had to be doing anythingù
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<StevenL> | Sector is working in virtual mode.
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<Longstaff> | if nobody else has anything pressing, i'd like to take a moment to announce that VOICE has an event chairperson for warpstock, and he's here tonight
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<maximum> | Here. Here.
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<madodel0> | hip hip horray
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<Longstaff> | five9guy - dunno if you'd like to say a few words?
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<maximum> | Don't keep us in suspense.
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<five9guy> | hello there everyone
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<StevenL> | Hi.
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<madodel0> | And you are in reality? Any intro?
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<westwind> | hello five9guy
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<Joc_> | what is a "event chairperson"?
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<Joc_> | what event?
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<Longstaff> | five9guy - how would you like to be introduced? :)
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<freiheit> | Hello there!
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<Longstaff> | welcome freiheit
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<five9guy> | it doesn't matter
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<mandie> | hello :)
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<Longstaff> | hiya mandie
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<five9guy> | bob will do just fine
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<Sector> | Hi
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<freiheit> | Bob, Bob the chatter.
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<five9guy> | it is for warpstock Joc_
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<five9guy> | how is everyone doing this eve?
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* | freiheit is doing well.
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<Longstaff> | bob has very helpfully volunteered to man the booth for warpstock
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<maximum> | Altogether now.
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<Joc_> | five9guy, you are taking of one event in particular, or WarpStock in general?
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<freiheit> | Woohoo! You go Bob!
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<mandie> | and who might Bob be?
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<Joc_> | err, taking _care_
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<five9guy> | just this years event as far as I know
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<Sector> | Bob be five9guy in disguise
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<madodel0> | hmmm, not the Bob of microsoft fame?
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<Longstaff> | mandie - bob is five9guy
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<five9guy> | no
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<maximum> | Steve, are you doing two chat sessions at a time?
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<Longstaff> | lol - bob runs warp fulltime......no windoze
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<Sector> | maximum: Why stop at twoù
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<maximum> | I'm new to this chat thing.
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<mandie> | maximum: you catch on quick :)
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<five9guy> | lol
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<maximum> | Steve, you must believe in chaos and fractals.
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<mandie> | five9guy: have you attended warpstock in the past?
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<five9guy> | no
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<maximum> | Well, I am using the GTIRC.
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<mandie> | five9guy: can I ask your real name plz?
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<westwind> | warpstock location?
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<mandie> | Atlanta
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<five9guy> | bob wagstaff
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<Sector> | With GTIRC you can have muliple channels open at the same time
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<maximum> | Thank you.
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<mandie> | hmm
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<five9guy> | what?
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<maximum> | hmm, she said.
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<mandie> | is wagstaff your real last name?
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<mandie> | lol
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<freiheit> | mandie!
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<StevenL> | Sector, multiple nets too.
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<five9guy> | why?
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<mandie> | freiheit!! :)
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<freiheit> | geez
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<freiheit> | heheh
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* | Sector only needs one net
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* | StevenL Well, webbnet is the best :).
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<Joc_> | StevenL, multiple net??? By running multiple session of GTIRC?
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<five9guy> | almost anything you would like to know about me is on my web page mandie
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<StevenL> | Yes.
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<maximum> | I assume we will get a more definite response on the VOICE website.
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<mandie> | five9guy: welcome :) what's your url?
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<five9guy> | http://members.tripod.com/five9guy is what my url is for now
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<westwind> | with open chat/2 multiple nets on one session... :) (not a salesman) :)
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<five9guy> | however I am in the middle of changing that as we speak
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<maximum> | Does anyone want to talk about WarpStock events?
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<mandie> | five9guy: you've volunteered to be exhibit chair for VOICE warpstock 99?
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* | freiheit chant's "Warpstock, Warpstock, Warpstock, Warp Expo West, Warpstock"
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<five9guy> | yes
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<madodel0> | Don you going to WEW?
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<mandie> | five9guy: thank you and welcome aboard :)
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<freiheit> | Not positive yet.
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<freiheit> | I would like to, though.
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<Joc_> | five9guy, each person have a different view on their responsabilities, what are yours regarding WarpStock? How many will have the same functions are yours?
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<mandie> | maximum: sure...where would you like to start?
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<five9guy> | as far as how many I am unsure at this point in time
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<Joc_> | more than one?
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<maximum> | Do we have an events or exhibit person we are introducing here?
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<madodel0> | maximum: he is the VOICE event chairperson.
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<mandie> | we need to get an annoucement posted with this information
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<madodel0> | Responsible for co-ordinating volunteers at the VOICE booth
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<maximum> | Could we enumerate the various chairpersons?
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<five9guy> | as far as the responsibalities I am going to be in charge of contacting the volunteers through Email and getting everything set up for the booth as well as a schedule of when the ppl are to man the booth
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<mandie> | Longstaff: would you get that done and posted to admin for review plz?
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<Longstaff> | mandie - i'd be delighted :)
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* | madodel0 volunteers for the booth. :-)
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<mandie> | maximum: this is just for VOICE, nothing to do with the warpstock chair ppl
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<Joc_> | five9guy, thanks for the answer
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<five9guy> | np
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<maximum> | I've done overstepped the scope again.
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<madodel0> | maximum: you going to ws99?
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<mandie> | maximum :)
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<mandie> | going! I would expect that maximum will be making a presentation again this year?
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<maximum> | I certainly plan on being there. Will they let me present again?
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<madodel0> | maximum: Is there a reason they shouldn't? :-O
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<StevenL> | Back in while folks...
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<freiheit> | heheh
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<maximum> | Well, last year I was the last presenter.
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<mandie> | then you need to remedy that this year
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<Longstaff> | maximum - we're very interested....what would be your presentation topic?
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<maximum> | Brad Wardell joked twenty minutes into my session.
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<mandie> | maximum: doubt that you'll have that problem this year
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<mandie> | although off to a slow start, I feel this year will show much more organization than past events
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<Joc_> | maximum what was your topic last year?
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<maximum> | Warpicity.
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<freiheit> | (not to be confused with WarpCity) :)
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* | madodel0 notes that next Monday there will be a speakup on that topic
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<mandie> | maximum: I'm awaiting a reply from Larry F about accessing the compuserve forum for your speakup
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<maximum> | Please note also that there will also be one this Saturday morning 6:am PDT.
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<freiheit> | Oops, bbl
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<maximum> | mandie, that depends upon input from Glenn Meadows.
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<Joc_> | mmh, I will try to assist, I find out what is "Warpicity". Just too bad WarpStock is on the other side of the continent. :(
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<mandie> | maximum: he is?
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<maximum> | As far as I know Larry F is cohosting this next Monday's session.
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<mandie> | Joc: there's a good article that maximum wrote in the VOICE newsletter re: warpicity
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<Joc_> | k
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<maximum> | Joc, does that put you on the west coast?
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<Joc_> | west coast??? Atlanta is on east coast??? I need to review my geography!
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<Timka> | hello all!
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<Longstaff> | hiya Timka
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<mandie> | Timka: hi :)
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<maximum> | Joc, what is the other side of the continent to you?
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<Joc_> | west
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<Longstaff> | atlanta is actually farther west than cleveland :)
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<Joc_> | I'm in Ottawa, Canada
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<maximum> | Joc, then ws99 is on your side of the continent?
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<five9guy> | alot futher south to
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<maximum> | The great circle route.
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<Longstaff> | Joc_ - if you're driving, head for detroit and bear south
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<Joc_> | I'm checking the map at the moment...
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<maximum> | When is it appropriate to speak about WS99 events?
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<maximum> | Must be in the wrong pew.
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<Joc_> | mmmh, Atlanta is not where I thought it was... http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=ia-map-result&zoom_level=1&mscsid=&uid=uc18v6n8q0hdb7iv:2x0aawuua&SNVData=7%3d%2a%26:%3d%2a%26%5e%5e%12j33wjv%5eS%17%5e%5e9%5e%10F%12%26:xl-t55f7n%2a%3dy5%21ayg967%3dn7m-lat55f,cw8%7c.5wbg5u,4kqmp%28at2%24msjsmm-1yb%3bndhmn%3bt%3bejkcj%3ba%3bBBDnklqr%280,QXO2jrblji%3ba%3bBBDnn7m-u.WIKu3rs%3b7%3bBBDnklqr%280,QXO2jrblji%3ba%3bBBDnn7m-lat55f,QXO2cw8%7c.5wbg5u,%1
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<os2OChat> | man o man that is the longest url ive seen yet
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<madodel0> | Nothing like a simple URL
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<Longstaff> | a url like that deserves some kinda prize :)
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<os2OChat> | rotfl
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<Joc_> | if it's the right Atlanta, it's just above Florida
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<five9guy> | no doubt
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<Timka> | grr... re
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<maximum> | I was about to send my machine in for repairs.
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<madodel0> | Atlanta is in Georgia, just North of Florida
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<Sector> | maximum: Why is that?
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<mel25> | which url?
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<Longstaff> | Joc_ that sounds like the one, only check your scale.....it's a couple of hundred miles above the florida state line
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<maximum> | I have enough trouble with plain english. Unplain scares me.
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<Sector> | mel25: http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=ia-map-result&zoom_
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<Sector> | level=1&mscsid=&uid=uc18v6n8q0hdb7iv:2x0aawuua&SNVData=7%3d%2a%26
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<Sector> | :%3d%2a%26%5e%5e%12j33wjv%5eS%17%5e%5e9%5e%10F%12%26:xl-t55f7n%2a
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<Sector> | %3dy5%21ayg967%3dn7m-lat55f,cw8%7c.5wbg5u,4kqmp%28at2%24msjsmm-1y
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<Sector> | b%3bndhmn%3bt%3bejkcj%3ba%3bBBDnklqr%280,QXO2jrblji%3ba%3bBBDnn7m
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<Sector> | -u.WIKu3rs%3b7%3bBBDnklqr%280,QXO2jrblji%3ba%3bBBDnn7m-lat55f,QXO
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<Sector> | 2cw8%7c.5wbg5u,%1
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<Sector> | That URL
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<mel25> | oh my
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<maximum> | that URL!
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<mel25> | yep would have to agree
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<Joc_> | Longstaff, I'm not at plus or minus 100 km, it's just about 10% error, good enough for me...
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<maximum> | Joc, anywhere within two hundred miles is beautiful country.
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<mel25> | so may I ask what VOICE is without seeming too blatantly foolish?
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<Longstaff> | not foolish at all mel25
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<mandie> | !ask voice
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<VoiceBot> | [voice] Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education (mandie)
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<Longstaff> | voice is a kinda warp community
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<Joc_> | could I define voice as a virtual user group?
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<madodel0> | mel25: Do you know what OS/2 is?
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<mandie> | mel: we're a "virtual" OS/2 user group that promotes OS/2 and supports the OS/2 community
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<mandie> | Joc: yes :)
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<mel25> | thanks appreciate the info...kept wondering why this was the most highly populated chat here
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<maximum> | VOICE sponsors WarpStock.
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<mel25> | nod
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<mandie> | VOICE "supports" warpstock
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<mel25> | OS/2 was the IBM operating system right?
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<maximum> | mandie, don't lose me in this thing.
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<Joc_> | no, it _is_
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<madodel0> | mel25: still is
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<Longstaff> | yes, but os/2 is still a current ibm product
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<madodel0> | !ask os/2
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<VoiceBot> | [os/2] Premium 32-bit multitasking, multithreaded O.S. for PCs. (os2hq)
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<mel25> | thought os/2 had been left behind because of WIndows...actually glad to hear it hasn't
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<mandie> | maximum: hehe...we have contributed $500.00 towards the Sat. night WS99 social event and will contribute another $500 when our $500 challenge is met by another contributor
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<five9guy> | os/2 warp to me is a better O.S. then "windoze"
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<Longstaff> | mel25 - windows has serious limitations
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* | mandie likes five9guy's thinking!
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<mel25> | I know Windows has limitations, I actually would like to invest in Linux if it weren't for the compatibility issues
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<mel25> | no offense intended
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<maximum0> | Sorry, I got disconnected there.
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<Joc_> | Is the financing of WarpStock difficult?
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<mandie> | os2Ochat: hi :)
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<five9guy> | seems to me like all the viruses are created by microsoft for their own operating sysems so that ppl will have to go get a newer version of it for their pc's
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<Longstaff> | mel25 - i respect linux technically, but am staying with warp for the indefinite future.......billyware can go to blazes
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<mandie> | Joc: yes, it's totally dependent upon registrations
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<madodel0> | mel25: no problem. We are all about choice. We just don't like microsoft shoving windoze down our throts.
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<madodel0> | ah throats
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<mandie> | hubby is downstairs right now fighting with "billy" ware..very very upset
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<maximum0> | I look at WarpStock as a unifying event.
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<mel25> | I definetely agree with that statement completely
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<mandie> | maximum: same here...
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<Longstaff> | that's what i dislike most about windoze i think.....it disfigures it's users
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<mandie> | kinda like a "family" reunion :)
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<mandie> | Projects!!!
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<madodel0> | most OS/2 users are forced to use windoze in work, but buy OS/2 to install on their home pcs
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<Projects> | mandie!
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<mel25> | ok now what is Warpstock..iwhere will it be held?
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<mandie> | !ask warpstock
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<westwind> | what will be at the #voice booth @ ws99???
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<VoiceBot> | [warpstock] http://www.warpstock.org for information (mandie)
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<maximum0> | Warps
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<Longstaff> | mel25 - it's in atlanta in october......we're goin' :)
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<Joc_> | I'm proud to say that I use OS/2 at work, all day long (the only here!)
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<mel25> | doesn't os/2 have compatibility issues as well? apologies again..I thought it would have problems with the preconfigured win software as well
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<five9guy> | the first time I got on a pc it had windoze and I know alot of other ppl who have it but then I found out about warp through my mother and I would much rather use this than the junk called windoze
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<madodel0> | mel25: OS/2 runs DOS, win 3.1, *NIX ports, and some win32 software
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* | Projects never did the windows thing... dos -> OS/2 and never looked back
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<Joc_> | mel25, yes it does have compatibility problems, especially new devices
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<Longstaff> | mel25 - os/2 can run most win16 apps, but gate$ invested millions to make sure it won't run win32
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<maximum0> | You have a compatibility problem if you need what they offer.
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<mel25> | billyboy strikes again
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* | Longstaff runs warp all day and night at work also
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<mel25> | really irks me that he is permitted to squash competitors
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<westwind> | what will be at the #voice booth @ ws99???
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<mandie> | westwind: us :)
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<Longstaff> | t-shirts!
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<westwind> | :)
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<five9guy> | I run a buffer at work and do all the pc stuff on warp
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<Joc_> | mel25, but there is lots of hardware that works fine with Os/2, so if you buy a new computer, it's a matter to check what availble and to choose one that has supports.
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<Projects> | BTW, this is last call for anyone wishing to take advantage of the June DTB deal... if you registered/renewed with Voice in June, speak up now, or forever hold your peace :)
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<mandie> | westwind: last year we had quite a few software discounts to offer to our existing and new members
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<westwind> | not who, what...
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<mandie> | sold t-shirts
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<five9guy> | as far as t-shirts are concerned what is going to be on them
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<mandie> | gave away floppy's with irc clients
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<five9guy> | anyone here know
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<mandie> | five9guy: we have quite a few left from last year, they are Raspberry pink with a voice logo :)
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<westwind> | DTB deal?
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<five9guy> | ok
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<mandie> | we chose not to put anything pertaining to WS on them so that we could use again this year
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<Projects> | westwind: DeskTop Backup from Pillarsoft
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<five9guy> | just wondering....and as long as I don't wonder to long I won't get lost
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<Projects> | luckily...
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<mel25> | ok are there any patches being made to convert from win over to os/2 as far as software is concerned?
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<maximum0> | Yes.
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<madodel0> | !ask odin
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<VoiceBot> | [odin] Not found.
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<madodel0> | hmmm
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<madodel0> | !ask netlabs
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<VoiceBot> | [netlabs] Not found.
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<Projects> | well find it, silly bot
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<Projects> | !ask win32-os2
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<VoiceBot> | [win32-os2] Not found.
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<mandie> | !ask win32
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<VoiceBot> | [win32] Not found.
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<maximum0> | Naw, Warpicity addresses that as well.
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<mandie> | hmm
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<mandie> | I need to do some entries
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<Joc_> | mandie, try to kick the but...
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<Joc_> | err, but=bot
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<Projects> | or in that context, bott? :)
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<Joc_> | hehe
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<mel25> | well it has been nice chatting with you all, I will stop back in again sometime.
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<maximum0> | I think Esther is right when it comes to locating OS/2 users?
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<mandie> | !set netlabs NetL@bs http://www.netlabs.org/
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<VoiceBot> | [netlabs] Has been added.
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<madodel0> | http://www.netlabs.org/odin/
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<mandie> | mad: why not the main page?
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<Projects> | maximum0: what did she say?
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<madodel0> | That is the main page for the Odin project
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<maximum0> | Said you we had no idea of their number or location.
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<maximum0> | They wander in. They wander out.
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<Projects> | maximum0: ya... sounds about right.
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<madodel0> | !set Odin The re-born win32-OS/2 project - http://www.netlabs.org/odin/
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<VoiceBot> | [Odin] Has been added.
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<five9guy> | hey mandie did you glance at my page at all?
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<mandie> | five9guy: yes :)
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<mandie> | five9guy: enough to find out that you like all music except polka's :)
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<madodel0> | !set win32-os/2 Now re-born as the Odin project - http://www.netlabs.org/odin/
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<VoiceBot> | [win32-os/2] Has been added.
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<five9guy> | lol
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<mandie> | five9guy: every been to my page?
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<mandie> | !ask mandie
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<VoiceBot> | [mandie] http://www.gt-online.com/~bri (mandie)
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<five9guy> | no
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<maximum0> | Would it be possible to invite Brad back to discuss his infrastructure concept?
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<madodel0> | Everybody has been to Judy's page
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<Projects> | five9guy: go there now. Do not pass GO. Do not collect...
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<mandie> | !set MoonScape Moon Scape Designs http://www.moon-scape.com
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<VoiceBot> | [MoonScape] Has been added.
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<mandie> | mad :)
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<Projects> | .!set blatant advertising ->mandie<-
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<Projects> | :)
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<mandie> | maximum: sure, I email him and tell him to let me know when he has some new info
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<Longstaff> | maximum0 - can you give us an encapsulation of brad's infrastructure concept?
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<madodel0> | Judy is the Queen of OS/2 websites
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<mandie> | LOL
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<five9guy> | I am there now
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<Projects> | guess you're allowed though, it's your bot :)
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<mandie> | projects: you can set your page if you'd like :)
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<mandie> | !ask projects
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<VoiceBot> | [projects] Not found.
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<Projects> | !ask Spoken
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<VoiceBot> | [Spoken] OS/2 Spoken Here! at http://www2.yellowhead16.net/~plazenby/index.html (Projects)
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<Projects> | already have :)
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<mandie> | hehe
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<maximum0> | longstaff: he talked about feeding part of the proceeds from the proposed new os/2 client back into funded support for an user infrastructure.
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<maximum0> | longstaff?
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<Longstaff> | maximum0 - thanx....that would be interesting
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<Joc_> | an user infrstructure is nice, but without new development it won't do much.
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<maximum0> | It's interesting because all current proposals depend upon a funded source, entirely different from approach taken with Linux.
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<mandie> | Joc: but if they get the project for a new client, there will be new development
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<maximum0> | Joc, Warpicity addresses the new development/maintenance issues.
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<mandie> | maximum: from what I understand of the warpicity...there would be only one developer?
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<maximum0> | mandie, you need to reexamine your statement. Brad is not doing new development. Neither is IBM.
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<Joc_> | I need to read about Warpicity
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* | Longstaff notes that the list of new warp apps continues to expand irrespective of warp5 client initatives
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* | mandie needs to reread the log from Brad's speakup :(
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<maximum0> | longstaff notes correctly.
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<maximum0> | Warpicity allows a single developer to produce what now takes hundreds.
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<Projects> | still no accounting apps though...
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<mandie> | John Urbanik may be releasing a new childrens (age 3-7) educational game at WS 99
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<Projects> | cool, got one who'll play with it now, and one on the way
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<Longstaff> | lol mandie - five9guy may snag a copy :)
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<maximum0> | However Warpicity does not limit the world to one developer. Warpicity simply states that you do not need more than one at a time.
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<mandie> | :)
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<five9guy> | lol
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<five9guy> | yea for my daughters
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<mandie> | I will certainly buy it for my grandaughter :)
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<Longstaff> | five9guy - future warpers! :)
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* | Projects wishes he could get his kids away from win-os2
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<five9guy> | I have a few of them
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<five9guy> | lol
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<Sector> | Projects: That's easy, disable it better yet delete it
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<Projects> | Sector: can't, 'cause of the software available... but, it is win-os2 and not windows, so I let it slide :)
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<Sector> | tell the kids it's broke and they'll have to use different software
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* | Projects needs Chips Challenge/2 and that silly mouse/cat thing to keep one daughter happy
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<Projects> | hehe
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<Projects> | Sector: done that with lots already :)
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* | Longstaff has clients still running win3 - the majority of windoze machines are still win3
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<Projects> | my only true win box is weenie, and that's inactive 99% of the time
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<maximum0> | longstaff ought to really force the SEC to look at MS accounting practice. You can't buy Windows 3.1
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<madodel0> | Have we announced the Warpstock99 Kickoff Speakup yet?
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* | Projects put it to work doing seti@home
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<mandie> | madodel: I just sent the info out tonight...
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<mandie> | Longstaff: can you also compose an announcement for the ws99 speakup and post to admin?
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<madodel0> | July 24, 1999 at 1 p.m. EST < Shouldn't that be EDT?
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<mandie> | yep
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<Projects> | why not just say "eastern" and leave it at that?
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<Longstaff> | mandie - will see to it
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<five9guy> | hey mandie would you mind if I put your url on my page for a link to other pages?
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<mandie> | corrected and email sent
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<mandie> | five9guy: be my guest :)
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<five9guy> | ok
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<madodel0> | Any more raffle prizes for that event?
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<five9guy> | b.t.w. I also signed the guestbook ok
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<mandie> | madodel: I don't think we need more than a couple of additional raffle prizes for that night
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<mandie> | five9: thx!! :)
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<Projects> | oh oh...
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<Projects> | now she knows where you live...
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<Projects> | :)
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<five9guy> | lol
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<five9guy> | let her come visit me I don't care
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<mandie> | but will she "remember"! :)
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<Projects> | hahahaha
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<five9guy> | lol she has a reference to look at
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<mandie> | five9: thx for the nice entry :)
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<five9guy> | np
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<five9guy> | All drugs have a generic name. Tylenol is Acetaminophen...Advil is Ibuprofen...And so on...What's the generic name for Viagra?
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<five9guy> | Mycoxafailin
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<mandie> | LOL
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<mandie> | "I" find that amusing :)
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<Longstaff> | hehe
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<five9guy> | I got a ton of them
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<five9guy> | I am making my web site with a ton of jokes on it
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<mandie> | I think we should add five9guy to our admin
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<mandie> | mailing list that is
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<Longstaff> | hey, we're planning on doing irc from the voice booth, right?
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<Projects> | hehehe
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<Longstaff> | mandie - i second that
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<mandie> | longstaff: god willing and the network permits :)
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<Projects> | hope so... I wanna be there too
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<mandie> | longstaff: drop dan a note requesting he add him
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<Longstaff> | mandie - i will
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<mandie> | longstaff: I hope your taking notes :)
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<mandie> | 2 announcements, and one email :)
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* | Longstaff is logging :)
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<mandie> | as soon as we hear from Larry, we need to get a reminder out about the Lynn Maxson speakup
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<mandie> | maximum to be exact :)
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<mandie> | maximum: is your hair blondish?
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<maximum> | The darn thing ask me for a nickname. All I could come up with was a moniker my cousins gave me when we were children.
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<mandie> | maximum: it's appropriate :)
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<maximum> | blondish, grayish, horriblish.
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<Projects> | hehe
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<mandie> | maximum: kind of longish?..I recall you from last year..met you when Rollin and the group was in the lobby :)
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<maximum> | Very longish. Ponytailish.
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<Sector> | mandie: Are you sure it wasn't the barù
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<mandie> | hehe
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<mandie> | maximum: yep, that's you!
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<maximum> | Rollin's father and I worked together for many, many years with IBM.
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<mandie> | ah, small world ;)
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<maximum> | Rollin's father remains a manufacturing industry guru.
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<mandie> | still with IBM?
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<maximum> | No, we are both "retired". Downsized.
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<mandie> | ah
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<maximum> | But we still bleed blue.
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<mandie> | :)
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<Sector> | So your Bluebloods
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<maximum> | If it's IBM blue.
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<mandie> | well, I have to take off....been nice chatting to you all :)
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<mandie> | nytol :)
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<Longstaff> | ibm have cool offices :)
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<maximum> | If you can find them.
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<Longstaff> | maximum - true....their restraint with publicity extends to signage!
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<five9guy> | I getting closer to having my next page done there ppl
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<maximum> | If IBM knew how to handle publicity, there would not be an MS, only a better OS than MS.
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* | madodel would like to know the names of the IBM lawyers that OK's the original DOS contract
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<Longstaff> | five9guy - you should include a warpstock logo so you can get your site on the supporters page - only wait until you have the site location steady
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<maximum> | You know, sometimes you can be overly independent.
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<five9guy> | sounds like a plan
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<madodel> | I think I figured out why WSe-b has been freezing a lot on me. I forgot to apply the OD 2.0 Fixkit.
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<maximum> | Let's not forget that DOS was not IBM's first choice.
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<five9guy> | ADULT: A person who has stopped growing at both ends and is now growing in the middle.
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<Projects> | let's also not forget that the only *original* thing ever coming out of redmond was Bob
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<Longstaff> | maximum - that's something wrong with 'pirates of silicon valley' which i presume everybody saw.....it never mentioned dan bricklin
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<maximum> | It wasn't Bricklin. It was DR.
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<WhiteDrag> | bye!
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<maximum> | Besides 'pirates of silicon valley' was more fantasy than fact.
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<madodel> | I understand the personalities were captured pretty well
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<maximum> | I'll give you that. Neither Steve Jobs nor Billy G would make my most admired list.
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<maximum> | When I want to see an arrogant asshole I just look in the mirror.
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<Longstaff> | that part was interesting: unsympathetic good guy - partly sympathetic bad guy
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<maximum> | IBM came off looking stupid. No one should ever make that mistake.
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<madodel> | Appears wealth had nothing to do with making either a scumbag
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<maximum> | Well, there are some things that money cannot prevent.
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<Longstaff> | well, i speak as a strong ibm supporter, but i can't help saying that ibm stupidity on occasions has been legendary
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<five9guy> | no doubt
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<maximum> | No, IBM has made inappropriate decisions, but never stupid ones. They make no decisions without horrendous discussion.
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<Longstaff> | maximum - it goes with a company that size
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<Joc_> | it easier to say it was stupid when know what happen afterward, but it's quite different when one does know.
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<maximum> | Its size is what got in the way.
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<Joc_> | err, does _not_ know
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<maximum> | What?
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<Longstaff> | maximum - i think their own monopoly settlement in 1982 with the gov't was traumatic and influential to this day
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<maximum> | Sorry. Missed your message.
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<Joc_> | just that it's easy to say NOW that it was stupid, but at the time, I dounbt you could have predicted what would have happen.
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<Joc_> | dounb=doubt
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<maximum> | The settlement was anticlimatic. It settled nothing. The fifteen year trial period with its FUD changed things internally.
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<madodel> | According to Dave Both IBM never planned to sell more then afew thousand pc's. They couldn't see a use for them outside mega-corps.
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<Joc_> | at the time it was a reasonable assumption
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<maximum> | Look, from the start IBM sought a non-IBM OS for the PC.
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<Longstaff> | well, that was then......i'm looking ahead to when the 1990s will be remembered as the decade of windoze, and thought of as a dark age. in the next century we're gonna get some real innovation back
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<maximum> | longstaff, you got it.
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<Joc_> | wishfull thinking
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<madodel> | Yes but why from a scum sucking toad like gates?
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<maximum> | Joc, nope
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<maximum> | We have never depended on Gates for innovation.
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<Longstaff> | gate$ doesn't depend on gate$ for innovation....he steals things :)
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<maximum> | Gates has been the one seeking out innovation and fearing it if elsewhere.
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<maximum> | Steve, should I be over on the SCOUG channel?
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<Joc_> | companies MUST make money, and perfectly good software needs no support, no update, etc, and that brings no money!
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<Joc_> | companies must ensure that people will BUY again, and again, to survive
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<Sector> | maximum: Your welcome to join in
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* | Projects would be happy to pay for a v5 of this perfectly good OS
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<maximum> | Joc, the dynamics of the environment forces change. That affects software.
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<maximum> | Joc, Warpicity offers a different economic model.
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<Joc_> | maximum, I get a very distinct that we are reaching a plateau, people are a lot more reluctant to buy a new computer because theirs is fast enough, and people are reluctant to buy new software because theirs everything they want.
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<Joc_> | err, distinct _feeling_
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<Longstaff> | Joc_ most businesses reached that mindset surprisingly soon after the debut of windoze
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<maximum> | Joc, we are blind men on different parts of an elephant.
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<Joc_> | ?
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<maximum> | The problem is for blind men not to insist upon what they cannot see.
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<maximum> | Joc, you have a portion of truth for a portion of the community.
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<Longstaff> | well, at the very least blind men should not drive taxis, or do qa for video cards :)
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<maximum> | longstaff, thank you.
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<Joc_> | right
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<madodel> | Good night all
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<Longstaff> | good night madodel
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<Projects> | night Mark
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<maximum> | I'm going to switch to the SCOUG session.
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<Longstaff> | oh yeah - that just started
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<Sector> | You can have two channels, no need to "switch"
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<Joc_> | is it on the same net?
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<Sector> | Yup, right where you are
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<maximum> | You don't understand my limited multitasking ability. It has nothing to do with the software.
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<_os2OChat> | its been fun goint to #scoug ;)
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<Projects> | Joc: yup... #scoug
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<Joc_> | I'm there, nothing's happening at the moment
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<maximum> | Be patient.
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<Joc_> | what is GMT?
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<Sector> | Monday nights is the help desk, sometimes since OS/2 works so well it's a little slow
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<Sector> | Greenich Mean Time
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<Joc_> | ah, ok, I should have know.
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<Longstaff> | well, since there are no more agenda items, i'm going to declare the meeting officially concluded, unless someone objects
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<Sector> | Also there's UT which is Universal Time.
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* | Sector objects just for the sake of objecting
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<Joc_> | from what I understand, GMT is obsolete
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<Projects> | hehehe
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<Longstaff> | lol Sector - please state yer objection :)
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<Sector> | Supposedly, but most people are more apt to recognize GMT as opposed to UT
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<Joc_> | right
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* | Sector objects on the grounds of it's too early
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<Joc_> | eventhouhg I did not recognize it...
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* | Longstaff overrules the objection on the grounds that Sector oughta get a life :)
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<Joc_> | I would object, but I'm too tired, so I simply stay quiet, and try to catch a few zzzz
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<Sector> | Whatz thatù
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<Projects> | the middle part of a pizza
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<Joc_> | the zzz?
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* | Sector knows what a Pizza is
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<Projects> | take off the pi and the a and catch what's in between :)
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<Joc_> | the sound that one does when he sleeps. You never reads comics???
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* | Sector doesn't know what a life is
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<Joc_> | lol
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<StevenL> | By all. See you at #scoug.
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